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« on: 04/09/2017, 11:50 AM »
Hi all.

The anti scale filter in my machine needs changing but they are proving hard to find, I have managed to find one seller in Australia.

Generally speaking are they something that just needs a clean or should they be replaced every so often?

Thanks, Sue.


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« Reply #1 on: 04/09/2017, 01:36 PM »
If you can take it out then you can clean it
Go get yourself some CLR or similar product use a glass / cup and cover the filter with CLR until the scale
dissipates
Rinse well and refit

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« Reply #2 on: 04/09/2017, 05:21 PM »
Thanks KK, I am going to go and give it a closer look.

As embarrassing as it is I think it is actually mould :/.
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« Reply #3 on: 04/09/2017, 05:26 PM »
Thanks KK, I am going to go and give it a closer look.

As embarrassing as it is I think it is actually mould :/.

Then use bleach
I clean my tank in this manner on occasions- as sometimes my low water sensors play up from still water

Just rinse well

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« Reply #4 on: 04/09/2017, 05:31 PM »
Brilliant, thanks so much  :).

I currently have it soaking in Cafalat after emptying out the little beads. I'll go on the hunt for some bleach.
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« Reply #5 on: 04/09/2017, 08:33 PM »
cafalat should do the trick its a food grade bleach so i reckon just give the filter a good rinse / soak afterwards and you should be good to go!
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« Reply #6 on: 05/09/2017, 09:23 AM »
It was Cafetto I had it soaking in, I was getting my "Cafs" mixed up  :P.

I found some bleach this morning so am trying that now, it's been soaking for around 1/2 an hour and looks not much better. Strange.

I'll leave it longer and see how we fare.

Thanks all :).
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« Reply #7 on: 05/09/2017, 01:40 PM »
Are we talking about the in tank water softener cartridge found on the end of the intake hose? If so, they shouldn't be soaked in bleach or any cleaners - you can sometimes regenerate the softener cartridge using rock salt or kosher salt, but its usually just easier to replace them, they are about $12-50 , send me a PM if you need to know where . They are also only good for about 30 litres, (10 tank fulls) much less than people think . Usually a much better option is to get a proper water filter, or even Brita/BWT cartridge jug

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« Reply #8 on: 06/09/2017, 11:50 AM »
I picked up a new second-hand Sunbeam Cafe Series coffee machine recently and the anti calcium filter was blocked so I just ended up removing the cartridge altogether and machine seems to be working perfectly now after a bit of a clean and descale

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« Reply #9 on: 06/09/2017, 12:20 PM »
Are we talking about the in tank water softener cartridge found on the end of the intake hose? If so, they shouldn't be soaked in bleach or any cleaners - you can sometimes regenerate the softener cartridge using rock salt or kosher salt, but its usually just easier to replace them, they are about $12-50 , send me a PM if you need to know where . They are also only good for about 30 litres, (10 tank fulls) much less than people think . Usually a much better option is to get a proper water filter, or even Brita/BWT cartridge jug

That's the one.

I have regenerated it before with rock salt. Somehow it has got mould in it where I can't clean it so I have been soaking it. It is looking better.
I managed to find one seller so figured they were really a part to be replaced if I couldn't find them.

I do use a Brita jug as well.
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« Reply #10 on: 06/09/2017, 12:21 PM »
I picked up a new second-hand Sunbeam Cafe Series coffee machine recently and the anti calcium filter was blocked so I just ended up removing the cartridge altogether and machine seems to be working perfectly now after a bit of a clean and descale

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I was thinking of removing it too but wasn't sure if just removing it is safe.
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« Reply #11 on: 06/09/2017, 01:38 PM »
it says so in the instruction manual that I read also I'd you're using filtered water already and descaled your machine once every 12 months it really shouldn't be a problem

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« Reply #12 on: 06/09/2017, 01:50 PM »
it says so in the instruction manual that I read also I'd you're using filtered water already and descaled your machine once every 12 months it really shouldn't be a problem

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Thank you CG.

I am just assuming you leave it off, no mods needed?
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« Reply #13 on: 06/09/2017, 04:12 PM »
yeah I managed to download a copy of the manual then I looked up the part about replacing the filter and it said rusty you can also leave it off so that's what I did!
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« Reply #14 on: 07/09/2017, 08:58 AM »
yeah I managed to download a copy of the manual then I looked up the part about replacing the filter and it said rusty you can also leave it off so that's what I did!

Brilliant, thank you :).
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« Reply #15 on: 08/09/2017, 12:05 AM »
no worries my machine is going great guns now especially after a descaled with white vinegar as well !

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« Reply #16 on: 11/09/2017, 10:49 AM »
Are you certain it's mold and not just carbon from the Brita filter? I used to get this in the filter and the bottom of the water reservoir in my Sunbeam using a Brita jug.

Mold needs air to grow, so it's very unlikely it would grow inside a fully submerged filter imo, especially if the water is pre-filtered (so won't contain spores or nutrients).

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« Reply #17 on: 11/09/2017, 12:58 PM »
Are you certain it's mold and not just carbon from the Brita filter? I used to get this in the filter and the bottom of the water reservoir in my Sunbeam using a Brita jug.

Mold needs air to grow, so it's very unlikely it would grow inside a fully submerged filter imo, especially if the water is pre-filtered (so won't contain spores or nutrients).

unless the machine has been unused for awhile and the filter has been exposed but, and correct me if Im wrong here, I think that we're talking about the liquid anti calcium filters that come built into the sunbeam cafe series water tank?

The machine that I picked up recently was about 12 months old but I dont think that it had been used for awhile and the fluid in the filter appeared to have hardened and it was blocking the water supply to the machine, so I just simply removed it altogether after referring to the instruction manual and the manufacturer's specifications!

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« Reply #18 on: 12/09/2017, 09:38 AM »
Are you certain it's mold and not just carbon from the Brita filter? I used to get this in the filter and the bottom of the water reservoir in my Sunbeam using a Brita jug.

Mold needs air to grow, so it's very unlikely it would grow inside a fully submerged filter imo, especially if the water is pre-filtered (so won't contain spores or nutrients).

Good point and the thought did cross my mind as well.

The machine is in daily use, usually 1-3 cups a day, occasionally it may have a day off.


I actually ended up buying some replacement filters, one to use and a couple of spares.
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