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« Reply #50 on: 25/08/2017, 06:12 PM »
Yes...it seems as long as you do your regular cleaning, they can last quite a while.
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« Reply #51 on: 26/08/2017, 08:03 AM »
my em6910 is still going strong still makes great coffee and I maintain that the espresso shots are on par with a commercial machine  !
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Another Year has gone by and still going strong.

Only issues I have had (apart from the initial failed machines) is the wear and tear on the rubber control knobs.  Steam Wand is still steaming, Collar hasn't been an issue....have performed the standard cleaning and descaling every few Months (though I have started using some nice cheap cleaning tablets from Woolworths as opposed to the $20 packet of Sunbeam).

All in all, very happy with the Machine....still.
I have been keeping a watchful eye on the Sunbeam Torino reviews.  I think I need one, but can't justify the $$$ while my EM7000 is still working  :-|
DJ's currently have the Machine and Grinder available for $1,199 which is very enticing but I guess an EM7000 in the Kitchen is worth a Torino on the Shop Floor  :coffee2:
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« Reply #53 on: 30/09/2018, 11:44 AM »
Although the machine is still going strong, I find myself proactively researching what my next machine would be.

Having had the Sunbeam EM6900, then EM6910, then EM7000...I have always assumed it would be the new Sunbeam Torino.  But the feedback on this machine has not been great (and perhaps this could also be said about the earlier models including my own experience with poor quality control on all 3 Machines).  So I find myself currently drawn to the Breville Dynamic Duo of similar price range.

Interesting decision to make should the time come for a new machine and grinder package in the near future.
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« Reply #54 on: 30/09/2018, 03:57 PM »
interesting that you've gone for all chinese-made (what Attilio would have called 'applicance') machines... his big gripe was the materials of the chinese ones, and the fact that the italian ones were (at least according to him) made to last longer, and include more brass/copper etc... at least that was my impression.

it's great to have the feedback from over the years, but my question is - on reflection, do you think you were right to go Sunbeam, or would you recommend spending a bit (a lot?) more and go for an italian machine at the beginning, that might last 10-15 years?

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« Reply #55 on: 30/09/2018, 04:07 PM »
Gazza you have had a great run with your Sunbeams
However in all honesty it’s time to go with a European mostly all metal machine, new or second hand

Only because I want the same longevity tests as a comparison from someone in a unique position
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« Reply #56 on: 02/10/2018, 08:33 AM »
Only because I want the same longevity tests as a comparison from someone in a unique position

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« Reply #57 on: 02/10/2018, 08:05 PM »
interesting that you've gone for all Chinese-made (what Attilio would have called 'appliance') machines...

...on reflection, do you think you were right to go Sunbeam, or would you recommend spending a bit (a lot?) more and go for an Italian machine at the beginning, that might last 10-15 years?
Up until now I have only ever had Sunbeam Coffee Machines (including a very basic Sunbeam Machine that did not have dual pumps prior to going down the Cafe Series path).  My interest in continuing with 'appliance' models can be attributed to the very satisfactory support I have received from both the Manufacturer and Retailer over the years...this being Sunbeam and Harvey Norman.  As previously documented, I've certainly had my share of failed machines but I cannot fault the repair and/or changeover process that I have experienced during this time (including a replacement EM6900 when it was out of Warranty).

I'm certainly not one to only purchase technology through Mainstream Retailers (PC's and Camera gear are cases in point), but when it comes to Coffee Machines, I will probably continue down this path.  It is easy to compare pricing prior to purchasing, and if issues arise, they are usually resolved quickly.  I also don't plan on spending more on the Italian Machines that "might" provide longevity.  The one time I deviated from an 'appliance' model was with my Solis Grinder after a recommendation from a Coffee Forum Member (can't even remember if it was from this forum), and getting that thing repaired was a right pain in the proverbial.  I eventually replaced that with a Sunbeam Grinder and it has never caused me a problem.

So on reflection...very happy that I went with Sunbeam.
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« Reply #58 on: 02/10/2018, 08:08 PM »
Gazza you have had a great run with your Sunbeams
However in all honesty it’s time to go with a European mostly all metal machine, new or second hand

Only because I want the same longevity tests as a comparison from someone in a unique position

If you are happy to provide the machine....I'll give you my "Honest" feedback and comparison  ;)

But if I'm paying...I think it will be Sunbeam/Breville
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« Reply #59 on: 03/10/2018, 01:23 PM »
Gotta tell ya'll….I've had my fair share of fancy European machines fail and its only been that I bought from terrific retailers that saved my skin every time.  HG, I think you've had a better experience than most with this class of machine and possibly that comes down to how you use them, how you maintain them and also a bit of luck. There is no shame in choosing one of these over their fancy expensive cousins... in fact, I you can get great coffee and great service from a machine a fraction of the cost of others then I take my hat off to you!!
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« Reply #60 on: 03/10/2018, 09:07 PM »
... in fact, If you can get great coffee and great service from a machine a fraction of the cost of others then I take my hat off to you!!

Like Wine, (not that I can speak from experience), Coffee is subjective.  We have a commercial machine in our Restaurant/Lounge area at work and I am fortunate enough to be able to make the occasional Cappuccino on it and it has allowed me to make some comparisons with very interesting results.

I have yet to make one that is of an equal taste (subjective as it is) to that which I can make on my EM7000 at home.  Assuming it was the different Beans that they use, I even ground some of my own at home and brought it to work to try on their machine.  Although this obviously meant that they weren't ground and then immediately used for making coffee...it was still within a couple of hours of grinding.  Again, the result was uninspiring...and surprising.  Could be the way the Machine is set up...who knows ?

Just to put it into perspective, I am more than happy with most Cappuccinos that are made for me in various Coffee Lounges...so this is not a case of "only my Sunbeam can produce a good coffee".
(I'm a man that is easily pleased with a 'Michel's" Coffee...but Starbucks should be avoided)
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« Reply #61 on: 04/10/2018, 09:50 AM »
Oh yes... Starbucks is terrible coffee. However, their filter coffee topped up with half and half was my go-to in the US.
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« Reply #62 on: 04/10/2018, 09:57 AM »
If you are happy to provide the machine....I'll give you my "Honest" feedback and comparison  ;)

But if I'm paying...I think it will be Sunbeam/Breville

Don’t have any spare machines on hand to give you
However you are welcome to call in to Casa Cafe de Koffee Kosmo when you are in the area

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« Reply #63 on: 04/10/2018, 08:18 PM »
Oh yes... Starbucks is terrible coffee. However, their filter coffee topped up with half and half was my go-to in the US.
Yes...it is sad when you have to look for a Starbucks over there because at least you know what to expect   :laugh:

I don't know how the Yanks can do coffee so bad.  Must be the beans.
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« Reply #65 on: 05/10/2018, 07:14 PM »
That's probably right up there with my very first Sunbeam Machine  :)

Can't remember how many times I released the group head when there was still a heap of pressure sitting there....coffee grinds would explode all over the walls.  Scared the crap out of me.
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« Reply #66 on: 06/10/2018, 11:38 AM »
That's probably right up there with my very first Sunbeam Machine  :)

Can't remember how many times I released the group head when there was still a heap of pressure sitting there....coffee grinds would explode all over the walls.  Scared the crap out of me.


At least you didn't kill a Mr Espresso with milk showering the neighbourhood in plastic and residue  ???
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« Reply #67 on: 14/02/2019, 08:24 PM »
It's done......Breville Dual Boiler Review coming in March  ;)
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« Reply #68 on: 16/02/2019, 09:27 AM »
It's done......Breville Dual Boiler Review coming in March  ;)
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