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« Reply #25 on: 12/02/2017, 09:04 PM »
All this lever bling is killing me.  Here's a picture of my current bench...


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« Reply #26 on: 12/02/2017, 09:05 PM »
Ringtail resin handles will adorn shortly when I can pin down DX!


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« Reply #27 on: 12/02/2017, 09:09 PM »
Welcome to the dark side

You are now analogue after a dip in the digital world
I know you will understand that analogy

Ohh and it's sexy

P.S I have DX's contact details if you can't find them

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« Reply #28 on: 12/02/2017, 09:36 PM »
All this lever bling is killing me.  Here's a picture of my current bench...
Wow.  Love it Brett! :)

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« Reply #29 on: 12/02/2017, 10:00 PM »
All this lever bling is killing me.  Here's a picture of my current bench...


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Nice setup Brett, who's the little guy standing in the shade of the hopper?
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« Reply #30 on: 12/02/2017, 10:59 PM »
This was a little fellow put together in a Lego Shop in Chicago recently.  I was trying to be as gauche as possible and horrify the Lego Masters fishing in the same parts bin as me.  I think I succeeded ;)
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« Reply #31 on: 13/02/2017, 09:22 AM »
I had a look at a video of the Londinium R
While watching I Heard a pump when the lever was actuated - is this a HX machine

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« Reply #32 on: 16/02/2017, 04:02 PM »
Yes KK, its a HX machine now. Reiss has made all of his machines HX now.

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« Reply #33 on: 17/02/2017, 06:13 PM »
And as much as I loved the L1, and how simple it was, there's an extra dimension with the pump driven pre-infusion really adds an extra dimension to the coffee. Plenty of body, bigger volume but more nuanced.


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« Reply #34 on: 17/02/2017, 07:00 PM »
Yes KK, its a HX machine now. Reiss has made all of his machines HX now.

Thanks Ash - thought as much but wanted confirmation

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And as much as I loved the L1, and how simple it was, there's an extra dimension with the pump driven pre-infusion really adds an extra dimension to the coffee. Plenty of body, bigger volume but more nuanced

May you have an abundance of tiger stripe shots on your LR as I have out of my Strega
And you should have received your KK secret blend roasted beans by now to enjoy

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« Reply #35 on: 06/03/2017, 12:18 PM »
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Knock knock

I and pretty sure others are waiting on an update mate

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« Reply #36 on: 06/03/2017, 05:57 PM »
Yes Please Kelsey, an update would be good! Pity I'm not down your way, I'd be tempted to bring my 2013 model and some beans I know to try them side by side! ;D
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« Reply #37 on: 07/03/2017, 09:52 AM »
Hi all,

Sorry for the wait - it's been bedlam here.

The LR is a revelation to me. Where it was stupidly easy to bang off good shots on the L1, the LR is an entirely different beast - and one that's forced me to be more rigorous in my coffee making.

Previously I never bothered weighing or distributing the grounds before a shot - just grind at roughly the right amount, tamp and go. That worked well on the L1 and you'd have regularly great coffee.

With the LR I've started to experience something I haven't had to deal with in a while - channeling.

This is because of the higher pre-infusion pressure.

The LR rewards patient prep work. So while I'm still not weighing my beans (not much point on the E10, but I'm eyeing off a potential change in grinder to accomodate single dosing) I'm more careful about dosage by overdosing slightly on the grind and using a dosing sweep to get it close enough to the right volume.

As well as that, I have a tiny whisk that I've been using to perform WDT. (Reiss is working on producing his own specialised distribution tool - I'll let you know how that goes when I have a chance to try it.)

Together this has decreased the incidence of channeling and increased shot quality.

That said - I'm getting better results out of light-medium-medium roasts than I am out of medium-dark-dark roasts. The darker roasts tend to clump more, have harder to control fines and channel more frequently.

I prefer light-medium/medium roasts, so I'm on the right curve for this machine out of the box.

If you prefer darker roasts, the answer is pretty simple - adjust the secondary regulator pressure downwards and you'll get a pressure profile closer to that of the L1. You'll have less volume and reduced nuance, but you'll get the most out of those dark chocolate/tobacco flavours.

Here's the thing tho - even the fast shots seem to have a lot of body, and a pleasing looking crema.

While I must admit that I've struggled to get used to the new machine, it's also highlighted how complacent I became with the L1.

KK - thank you for your beans, I've enjoyed them enormously. Some very nice cherry flavour in there that I really appreciate!
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« Reply #38 on: 09/03/2017, 08:41 AM »
I also left out that if I wanted to return to the ease of the L1, it'd be as simple as dialing down the secondary pressure regulator. I could tune this to have the balance of volume, body, nuance and ease of use.


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« Reply #39 on: 09/03/2017, 08:48 AM »
Thanks for the update Kelsey
Sounds like you have the new lever under control and enjoying the coffee

Glad you liked the home roast blend   :thumb:

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« Reply #40 on: 14/03/2017, 01:10 PM »
Thanks Kelsey, tuning the machine sounds like an interesting approach. Unfortunately getting a new one will have to wait for a while for me. The other half is a little annoyed at my much hyped (and much delayed) purchase of the Bullet roaster. Tax time will be the earliest option for me 😯

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« Reply #41 on: 29/08/2017, 06:24 PM »
Nice setup. I love that lever!

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« Reply #42 on: 02/09/2017, 06:59 PM »
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Ahhhhh Brett I thought I recognised that grinder... that's one from GJs!!! I worked for them for a number of years in the past and was very fond of that grinder haha, awesome, that brings me back :D
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« Reply #43 on: 02/09/2017, 07:47 PM »
Lol.... Yep!  I scored it fro Galumay who scored a few of them that were put into shops that closed as soon as they opened!  It's a very nice grinder and ticks all the boxes I need it to tick.  Sure, I'd like a fancy new electronic thing but apart from the latest Baratza Sette nothing has tempted me.
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« Reply #44 on: 02/09/2017, 08:54 PM »
Ah wow nice, yeah a great grinder, always loved the feel of the dosing lever clicks on it :)
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« Reply #45 on: 02/09/2017, 08:58 PM »
As much as I like the Sette, I'm dubious after seeing what happened with the belt drives on varios.


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« Reply #46 on: 03/09/2017, 02:56 AM »
I'm still hoping to win one from five senses for father's Day!
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« Reply #47 on: 03/09/2017, 12:12 PM »
My issue is only that the design is so good, for that price surely something has to give.  I remember the BCG folks having all sorts of issues with their units.  In short, I'd need to try it before I buy it... especially as it would replace a very capable fuss-free unit that I've only ever had good coffee from!
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« Reply #48 on: 04/09/2017, 06:50 AM »
I'm still hoping to win one from five senses for father's Day!

You and me both!


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