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DaveWalker

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« on: 05/04/2017, 07:57 PM »
Hi everyone,

I'm in need of some advice on a new grinder. The old one doesn't cut it anymore and as I'm about to get a new roaster I would like to upgrade. Any advice would be wonderful, no budget really however a really nice home station would be great. Thanks.

If you would like throw in suggestions on a decent espresso machine as well be my guest.


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« Reply #1 on: 06/04/2017, 09:02 AM »
Everyone has their own preferences and so far as personal choices for Espresso machines goes and I suppose it's horses for courses here.

 My personal preference is for a semi commercial single group coffee machine which is why I settled on the rancilio epoca  coupled with a mazzer super Jolly grinder

 I just love the industrial nature of both of these machines

They take up a lot of bench space but also make fantastic coffee

But that might be a bit more Firepower than what you need

Ive owned a bunch of coffee machines  from prosumer to semi commercial and there's many great machines out there

you might want to hit up some of our sponsors for further advice as I'm sure they will be able to guide you and even have a potential site member discount?

otherwise I'm happy to make so e recommendation​s if you PM me

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« Reply #2 on: 06/04/2017, 09:49 AM »
Thanks for the advice Pat.

The mazzer looks really good, the rancilio does look a bit much at the moment however I am trying to buy equipment that will assist me down the track in a larger setting so I am on 2 minds at the moment on that.

Where can I find a list of our sponsors?


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« Reply #3 on: 06/04/2017, 10:49 AM »
Hi mate, I too have commercial grinders and would never go back.  I also have some domestic grinders including the ubiquitous sunbeam and breville (which is the only domestic grinder to find the bin of all I've owned), and the domestics just aren't as good.  Funny thing is, no matter what you buy there is a learning curve; and, I can guarantee a gun barista will get a better coffee out of a Macao domestic than I will out of my K10 conical!

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« Reply #4 on: 06/04/2017, 11:05 AM »
Ok will do Brett thanks.


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« Reply #5 on: 06/04/2017, 12:10 PM »
The following machines would be my pick of the bunch for each category. This isn't based on using any of them for any length of time (I have had a play on a couple), but rather on using many other machines and formulating a list of desirable features. So this is kind of my wish list if you like if I were to go shopping with no budget constraints.

Grinder:

• Macap M4D
• Quamar Q50P
• Compak of some sort (probably E5)

Dual Boiler Prosumer:

• Profitec Pro 700
• Rocket R58
• ECM Synchronika II

Prosumer HX:

• Rocket Appartamento
• ECM Technika
(Or whichever you can get the best deal on from the wide range of reputable makes such as Lelit, Bezzera, Diadema, etc.)

Lever operated:

• Profitec Pro 800
• Londinium R
• Bezzera Strega

Semi-commercial:

• Faema E98 Compact
• Wega Mininova (or one of its other brandings such as Astoria CKXE)
(I like both of these as they have built in tanks but can also be plumbed in and have good quality volumetrics).

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« Reply #6 on: 06/04/2017, 01:59 PM »
Unreal Leroy thanks a lot. At the end of the day I'll choose something but all this info will be a huge help.

Do we have any sponsors that might sell this equipment?


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« Reply #7 on: 06/04/2017, 02:37 PM »
We have a list of sponsors section on the home page DW

As for a grinder
I have owned a few and tried dozens of others

My preference is
Large Flat blade like a Mazzer Major
Large Conical of any of these brands. Mazzer BNZ Compak
Koni, Robur - MD74 - K10
Nothing comes close to this type of grinder

On top of that, I prefer the old fashion doser mechanism over the new electronic doser less

As to an espresso machine
Any prosumer Lever machine - I just like them better - but may not suit all

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« Reply #8 on: 06/04/2017, 03:01 PM »
Great list Leroy!

I'd add:

Prosumer HX: Diadema Unico Splendor
prosumer DB: Diadema Junior Extra PID

I've owned and maintained both machines and they are robust, reliable and mighty fine performers as well as being a bit cheaper than the competition and far better looking ;)
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« Reply #9 on: 06/04/2017, 03:41 PM »
Ok so Lever controlled machines. Can any shed some light on the difference between lever and automated??? I have never seen one in action nor know why you would use one.


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« Reply #10 on: 06/04/2017, 04:34 PM »
https://youtu.be/T9OUNXVLY_o

This video below is me pulling a shot on my Strega

https://youtu.be/2fYXZv07LEI
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« Reply #11 on: 06/04/2017, 05:10 PM »
Thanks a lot for that KK, I feel that isn't really for me at this stage.


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« Reply #12 on: 06/04/2017, 06:24 PM »
Thanks a lot for that KK, I feel that isn't really for me at this stage.


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Now you know what you don't want

Just remember that YouTube is your friend
Any machine or grinder that is recommended on this thread can be searched and viewed on video so you can see it working

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« Reply #13 on: 06/04/2017, 06:41 PM »
https://youtu.be/T9OUNXVLY_o

This video is me pulling a shot on my Strega

https://youtu.be/2fYXZv07LEI

Damnit KK! Now I need to mop up the pool of drool on the floor! LOL. I haven't watched that vid for a while! As good as ever.
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« Reply #14 on: 06/04/2017, 06:51 PM »
Damnit KK! Now I need to mop up the pool of drool on the floor! LOL. I haven't watched that vid for a while! As good as ever.

That's one of the reasons I haven't looked sideways since I got my Strega
In that video you see what is a dally occurrence for me

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