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Climate change threatens world coffee supply
« on: 18/02/2017, 11:07 AM »
Important article for all of us, and particularly for coffee aficionados:
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/23/science/climate-change-threatens-worlds-coffee-supply-report-says.html



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« Reply #1 on: 18/02/2017, 10:21 PM »
Mmmmm... okay..... quvkic question.  The rule of 3's.... how flexible can we be on this if for instance, and I'm just putting it out there... we buy up all the beans and put them in a big freezer wi.... oh....crap.... I blame Nespresso!!!
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« Reply #2 on: 19/02/2017, 01:53 PM »
Quote from the article:

“The extra warmth is enabling those sorts of lines of attack to be strengthened,” said John Connor, the chief executive of the Climate Institute.

John Conner - remember him? The guy who saved the world from the robot apocalypse... Coincidence?

I don't think so !
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« Reply #3 on: 19/02/2017, 08:39 PM »
 :rofl:
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« Reply #4 on: 25/02/2017, 01:34 PM »
There are perhaps greater threats to coffee supply than just climate.

The fundamental economics of coffee have been stuffed since the boom/bust periods in the 1970's and 80's when some greedy countries attempted to flood the market with mass volumes of rubbish. Lessons were learned but it left an indelible mark on the basic ratios that were apportioned along the supply chains.

Farmers in some origins have to make decisions about whether to use their land for coffee or other crops that either pay more or are less prone to the risks of adverse weather or pests.

Other origins are at risk of sprawling property development (Costa Rica, Panama, etc.) and we all know the which way the value turns in that equation.

In PNG for more than 25 years the land has been raped and pillaged for timber into corrupt economies of South East Asia, or the rich natural resources of oil, coal, gas, copper, gold, etc. mean that farming communities can work in different occupations to earn improved income compared to the marginal returns from coffee that is still largely exploited by large multi-nationals.

Some Central American origins have severe issues with crime, violence and corruption - all outside of the realm from climate change.

The world is going to continue to demand constantly improving coffee qualities across all segments. These are the true supply deficits as competition on the retail side pushes companies to raise their source grades - which in turn creates cycles of prices spikes across the chain.

Reduce price volatility (bring commodities trading under a central authority to stop traders from profiteering on speculative rising and falling of futures), repair social stability in challenging origins and balance equality across supply chains.

These are the influential initiatives that create incentives for coffee farming and boosting falling yields.

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« Reply #5 on: 25/02/2017, 05:19 PM »
'Twill never happen Jeff.  You may as well ask market manipulators to stop profiting from hard-working producers. :/
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« Reply #6 on: 25/02/2017, 08:49 PM »
Agree completely Brett........but the one-eyed tree-huggers fail to see the elephants in the room and skew their findings towards the fear and gloom of climate climate change so to create the need to earn more paid consulting revenue with further reporting and commentary.

Attempting to fix the structural problems in global trading markets are laughably impossible - much like addressing social and economic problems in El Salvador, Colombia, Guatemala, Peru, Mexico, PNG and Indonesia.

One the biggest unreported threats to global coffee, particular the specialty segment is the volatility in Ethiopia, the escalating challenges in freight logistics at that origin and it's rapidly declining yields each season. It's quite an important origin in the grand scheme of the coffee universe that also happens to play is rather vital for many coffee companies.

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« Reply #7 on: 28/10/2017, 09:55 PM »
That's why I keep razor blades handy.
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« Reply #8 on: 29/10/2017, 09:56 PM »
that's why I always keep bout 30kg of green beans on hand for personal use ...
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« Reply #9 on: 20/10/2018, 12:46 PM »
interesting article from SMH last week: https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/the-ugly-truth-about-coffee-sydney-roaster-in-fight-to-keep-industry-alive-20181013-p509gj.html

"Greg Meenahan of World Coffee Research is predicting a shortfall of 180 million bags of coffee by 2050. “Demand for coffee is expected to double by the year 2050, and if nothing is done, more than half of the world’s suitable coffee land will be pushed into unsuitability due to climate change,” he says."


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« Reply #10 on: 20/10/2018, 08:53 PM »
that's why I suggest stockpiling in your fallout shelter folks - better safe than sorry !
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« Reply #11 on: 21/10/2018, 04:26 PM »
that's why I suggest stockpiling in your fallout shelter folks - better safe than sorry !
actually Pat, talking about self-sufficiency, assume you have a flourishing grove of plants of the genus arabica growing the in backyard, now that you live in tropical QLD?

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« Reply #12 on: 21/10/2018, 08:14 PM »
actually Pat, talking about self-sufficiency, assume you have a flourishing grove of plants of the genus arabica growing the in backyard, now that you live in tropical QLD?
actually my backyard is taken up with a massive swimming pool, but I did plant out a couple of laundry tubs today according to the 'one square metre' gardening philosophy which stipulates that you should only plant out what you can realistically use and are prepared to manage, then add on as required!

my father-in-law has a massive coffee tree growing in his back yard which gives off a fair amount of fruit,  though, but the logistics of harvesting and processing escape me ...
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