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madaxle

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« Reply #25 on: 31/07/2017, 10:49 PM »
Hi All,

Looking for some help here. I have just purchased an ECM Synchronika and looking for some advise around the plumbing in with filter and waste. Taking delivery soon but want to get the water filter to avoid scale.

Based in Sydney (ryde catchment) so Sydney water showing the following:

Total dissolved solids: 100-136
Total hardness: 48-62
PH: 7.8-8.0

The ECM manual states that there is a 1 x metal hose 1/8” (i.e. 3.175mm) to 3/8” (i.e. 9.525mm).

I have a perfect outlet under the sink which also goes into the dishwasher. I understand that to ensure i got the right pressure i could not use the dishwasher if i wanted to have a coffee and only 1 could be used at a time. The measurement i took were 12mm plastic hose with a female fitting (looks closer to 28-30mm) going to a male tap fitting (looks between 25mm-30mm) - will take the fitting off tomorrow to confirm 100%

Questions:
1. Can find the specifications of the hose required for the drip tray to drain. Any idea on the mm size of this pipe?
2. looking at either the Brita C150 finest or 3M HF15-MS  Water Filter, High Flow Series. Does anyone have experience in these? Looking at my water hardness was thinking that the 3M might be better as its says up to hardness 140 which i think i am under.
3. Do you need to buy a 'shut-off valve' or does that come with the Brita/3M
4. Do you need to buy a 'water pressure valve'? Or will the filter be suitable to handle
5. do i need a t-junction? If so do i attach this to the tap or cut partway through the 12mm hose going to dishwasher to the tap fitting. I think its to the tap itself.
5. What sort of pipe fitting would i need from the steel hose coming wiht the machine into the filter. Assuming 3/8" (male or female?) to ?" male or female. Assuming it would fit straight into the steel hose that goes to the machine to the filter itself. Correct?
6. what sort of pipe hose fitting do i need from the filter to the tap fitting / t-junction fitting?

Any advise or tips that could help me work this out and get this right would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
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« Reply #26 on: 31/07/2017, 10:56 PM »
I plumbed in myself. Just needed a trip to Bunnings to grad a few basic fittings.
Here's the link you need :)
K Bean - Water Filtration


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« Reply #27 on: 01/08/2017, 11:32 AM »
I plumbed in myself. Just needed a trip to Bunnings to grad a few basic fittings.
Here's the link you need :)
K Bean - Water Filtration


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And don't forget the Teflon tape - the stuff included with the filter is rubbish!

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« Reply #28 on: 01/08/2017, 11:52 AM »
thanks all...got some other advice from some people. Feedback in point form:

Brita C150
It included all the tubing needed to connect to the water outlet, the machine should've included a braided steel hose to go to the machine
Bunnings had a brass T-joiner that did the job along with lots of good-quality Teflon tape (not the stuff included with the filter - it's crap)
Brita does include a pressure reducer and shut off valve
The 3/8" valve from ECM Sync goes straight into the Brita C150
The output to water mains has a 1/2" valve to plug into the T-Junction or Water Tap. Just need the right brass/tape to connect

Waste
For the waste you'll need an additional part (I think it's called the "drain waste kit" or similar), basically an open-topped plastic box that sits under the drip tray.
You will need to drill out the drip tray - there's an indent for that, my tip here is to source a rubber plug and drill to the same diameter so it's simple if you move the machine and want to run the drip tray again. And keep the hole small - well under a cm - to limit the flow rate.
The outlet from the drain box is small, so it will fill up and overflow if a lot of water goes through. I'd even start at 4mm or so, you can always drill it out further later on if needed.

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« Reply #29 on: 01/08/2017, 01:21 PM »
I use this company:
https://www.filtersystemsaustralia.com.au/

The name has changed, the people are the same. No BS, just good advice and reasonable prices.

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« Reply #30 on: 01/08/2017, 03:14 PM »

Water Filter
I use a 5 filter unit with a re mineralizer from Welness for several years and it's great
However if you are plumbing in the water filter direct to the coffee machine then it's best to use a commercial water filter unit as I did for my previous machine

So I had two filter systems one for drinking and tank filled espresso machine and a commercial unit for the plumed in BZ40

Waste
As for a waste hose - use a hose that connects from the drip tray to the waste pipe under the sink just like the dish washer hose

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« Reply #31 on: 04/08/2017, 09:00 AM »
Hi All,

Just a clarification point on the Brita C150 Bypass setting for the coffee machine.

Recommended by-pass setting = ? %


My statistics are:

Total dissolved solids mg/L: 100 – 136
pH: 7.8 – 8.0
Total hardness mg CaCO3 /L: 48 – 62
Calcium hardness mg CaCO3 /L: 30 – 39
Magnesium hardness mg CaCO3 /L: 18 – 25
Alkalinity mg CaCO3 /L: 29 - 39

Just curious on the bypass table that i should be setting this based off the Calcium Hardness which is between 30-39.

Does that mean the bypass setting should be between 30%-39% on the bypass setting on brita filter?

Thanks in advanced.

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