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« on: 27/05/2011, 09:20 PM »
new to all this and only tried a few coffee's but today i had several cups of indian monsoon malabar and i like it a lot , .
i picked up a kg of green from a roaster in toowoomba this week and the guy was good enough to give me a bit already roasted to take home and try .
now as already said i aint an expert but to me it had plenty of body and very smooth but no what i call bitterness left in the mouth which is what i  liked about it ,it did however i thought leave my mouth a little dry for a while after .
i have read that it is not an easy bean to roast so that has me a bit worried now that i have some green .
what i would like to know from those more knowledgeable than me is what would be good to blend with this bean to reduce the dry mouth without adding any kind of bitterness.
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« Reply #1 on: 27/05/2011, 09:42 PM »
QUOTE "What is a Latte I hear you say "
sold quite a few of those already , and they are coming back for more so i must be at the very least pretty close.
what i have learned so far is that i need more grinders , well at least one more for now .
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« Reply #2 on: 27/05/2011, 10:03 PM »
new to all this and only tried a few coffee's but today i had several cups of indian monsoon malabar and i like it a lot , .
i picked up a kg of green from a roaster in toowoomba this week and the guy was good enough to give me a bit already roasted to take home and try .
now as already said i aint an expert but to me it had plenty of body and very smooth but no what i call bitterness left in the mouth which is what i  liked about it ,it did however i thought leave my mouth a little dry for a while after .
i have read that it is not an easy bean to roast so that has me a bit worried now that i have some green .
what i would like to know from those more knowledgeable than me is what would be good to blend with this bean to reduce the dry mouth without adding any kind of bitterness.
johno

Yes MM is a nice bean
A longer rest time is needed as already stated by AM

Min of 14/16 days post roast for my liking

With regards to dry after-taste I normally find the mouth feel as buttery 
Next time have a drink of water after your coffee, to clean the pallet

This works for me after Greek?Turkish coffee

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« Reply #3 on: 27/05/2011, 10:07 PM »
Agree with others. I like this dark roasted and at about day 21. I'm assuming you got them from Chipironi? I'm in Toowoomba too fyi.
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« Reply #4 on: 27/05/2011, 10:16 PM »
Agree with others. I like this dark roasted and at about day 21. I'm assuming you got them from Chipironi? I'm in Toowoomba too fyi.

yep i did .        thought i better not drop a name just in case i upset anything .

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« Reply #5 on: 27/05/2011, 10:27 PM »
Agree with others. I like this dark roasted and at about day 21. I'm assuming you got them from Chipironi? I'm in Toowoomba too fyi.

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yep i did .        thought i better not drop a name just in case i upset anything .


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« Reply #6 on: 28/05/2011, 12:30 PM »
It's a love it or hate it bean with no inbetweens. Like the others just into SC and watch it doesn't run away on you at first (exothermic) and jump quickly to second. All this means is watch out you don't get into FC with to much heat and energy then nurse it toward SC.

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« Reply #7 on: 28/05/2011, 12:44 PM »
I take the opposite viewpoint with this one.

I love the bean.  I don't think it needs to rest as much as everyone says.  My findings are that it is good even just post-roast.  Maybe I live in this perfect coffee dimension, where the stars always align, but I've yet to have a bad result with this one.

I use it as a base for blending as well, simply because of it's low acid and viscous mouthfeel.

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« Reply #8 on: 09/06/2011, 12:10 PM »
I take the opposite viewpoint with this one.

 My findings are that it is good even just post-roast. 

I use it as a base for blending as well, simply because of it's low acid and viscous mouthfeel.

I'd have to agree.   Am drinking it right now, 1 day post roast, in a roasted blend with Sipangan Bolon.   

As an SO espresso,  it can be a little too much if not left to mature for while first to tame it down a bit.

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« Reply #9 on: 09/06/2011, 01:38 PM »
I take the opposite viewpoint with this one.

I love the bean.  I don't think it needs to rest as much as everyone says.  My findings are that it is good even just post-roast.  Maybe I live in this perfect coffee dimension, where the stars always align, but I've yet to have a bad result with this one.

I use it as a base for blending as well, simply because of it's low acid and viscous mouthfeel.

I'm with you WotB, one of my favourites, easy to roast, I usually let it degas for about a week but have no problem using it after a couple of days.
I always keep a few kilo's on hand. ;)
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« Reply #10 on: 09/06/2011, 08:26 PM »
I'd have to agree.   Am drinking it right now, 1 day post roast, in a roasted blend with Sipangan Bolon.   

As an SO espresso,  it can be a little too much if not left to mature for while first to tame it down a bit.

Geez Borat, I don't know how you like that Sipa - I had a pallet (960kgs) of it earlier in the year and it was not very nice - extremely high in acid prepared for the North American market. Not at all like a Sumatran. Had to dilute in down in some of the lower-end blends and use it sparingly - such was the impact it would have on a blend.

Just on the subject of MM - what amazes me the most is a high percentage of home roasters trying to learn the art of roasting and blending, yet gravitate early in the experience cycle to MM, which can be challenging to work with.

I don't wish to sound negative towards MM, but you could save yourself quite a bit of early heartache by leaving this bean till you understand the basics of blending and the effects of more commonly used varietals.

Of course, if you love the MM, there is no stopping you - and nor should my comments persuade you to stop using it. It's a polarizing bean and requires a good understanding to get the best from it.

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« Reply #11 on: 09/06/2011, 08:37 PM »
i had 1kg of bought roasted beans ( actually the second bag of it ) and it was nice but lacking something and i was running short of roasted in the shop so i threw in a good handfull of MM and mixed it up ran a bit through the grinder and made a cuppa . i thought i would either improve it or destroy it and to my delight the MM improved it heaps , i am just on the last little bit of it now the bag will be gone after the first half dozen coffee's in the morning ,and the customers that had coffee today were all happy with the coffee's they were served so i am happy and glad i had the small bag of MM that i roasted a week or so ago .

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« Reply #12 on: 10/06/2011, 07:43 AM »
MM was the first bean I roasted. Never had a problem roasting, but I remain ambivalent about this one and it definitely ages differently to most I've tried.

Wouldn't be one I'd choose as a first bean if starting over.
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« Reply #13 on: 14/06/2011, 09:16 PM »
Geez Borat, I don't know how you like that Sipa - I had a pallet (960kgs) of it earlier in the year and it was not very nice - extremely high in acid prepared for the North American market. Not at all like a Sumatran. Had to dilute in down in some of the lower-end blends and use it sparingly - such was the impact it would have on a blend.

I had a couple of 2.5kg bags that I bought off CS ages ago (Aug 09).    Maybe a different crop?   The one I had was very very nutty (smelled a bit like peanuts), and if roasted right and blended with MM had a sweet caramel hit in there too. 

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« Reply #14 on: 20/06/2011, 06:40 PM »
I've just roasted my first batch of this after enjoying it at Troy's during the last Brisbane gathering. :)  Can't wait to give it a go tomorrow.

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« Reply #15 on: 20/06/2011, 11:52 PM »
I have a batch of this that I bought from Ministry of Grounds. It is called Coelho's Gold. I love this bean. I roast it just into the second crack and am happy drinking it from day 3. I have had plenty of this bean in the past but this latest batch is just great.
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« Reply #16 on: 21/06/2011, 01:05 PM »
I like to take mine to the first snap of second crack and pull the roast there - and whilst I've enjoyed it straight up as espresso my personal drinking preference is as a filter coffee

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« Reply #17 on: 21/06/2011, 04:25 PM »
I had a nice latte with my 2 days post roast today.  tasted rather nice, a bit different with a lingering aftertaste but not an unpleasant one.  Not sure it will last too long.  Might have to roast some more to keep to try later. :)

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« Reply #18 on: 21/06/2011, 04:41 PM »
I roasted some the weekend before last and am not planning to crack it open until next weekend at the earliest, as I've seen many reports that it requires at least two weeks in the bag before getting to its best.

I've never had it before so will be curious to see what it's like, particularly as it's the first been I've roasted that seems to shrink rather than grow during the roasting process!

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« Reply #19 on: 21/06/2011, 04:45 PM »
The best part of Monsooned Malabar is the buttery mouth feel
Its unlike any other bean in flavour characteristics
I wonder if its because flavours need to fight through the thick Crema as well

I only have 350/400 grams of green beans left

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« Reply #20 on: 15/02/2015, 03:28 PM »
Wow, how time flies!

I roasted some MM a month ago for C-Man and put it in the cupboard and forgot all about it.  Today I got Mycuppa's newsletter and in it he had an article about MM, and how great it is.  I followed his advice, grinding really fine, updose and nailed a perfect shot!  I had forgotten how good this bean really is, even as a SO.  The taste just seems to linger, in a good way for ages. :)

I think I have a shot or 2 left, so I'm going to try it as a long black tomorrow! :)

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« Reply #21 on: 15/02/2015, 03:31 PM »
MM is certainly on my list of favourites Lacehim. :)
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« Reply #22 on: 26/02/2015, 05:08 PM »
yep, my MM is hitting the mark now too
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« Reply #23 on: 26/02/2015, 05:19 PM »
I just had the final coffee from the batch I roasted at chesters C-Man.  Lovely and still plenty of Crema!

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« Reply #24 on: 28/02/2015, 09:42 PM »
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