Wooden and SS Group Handles.

RichardM

AngerManagement wrote:

A Tung and Orange oil mix is GREAT and natural and hard wearing. The issue for Tung oil is it likes to be worked and takes some time to dry really hard...

Isn't that why Danish oil was created? It's a superior mix of Tung oil with other oils to make it easier to work with.

Koffee_Kosmo

I have just been reading on some products I think that I like the idea of blends of urethane fortified natural oils http://www.dgi.com.au/coil.html Gives me the best of both worlds Any other brands available? KK

Lacehim

Ok. Bought a m10 gal and a 3/8 zinc and the m10 fits, tad loose but so is the orig handle until it tightens up. The 3/8 didn't even thread on. Too small. 🙂 Will post up piccies of the stock handles tknight and a rough drawing of what I want. Do you think you could also do some hw/steam handles? That would be ace.

RichardM

AM, Just wondering, what do you think the wood from a Pecan tree would be like? I have one growing over my fence, and the branches are about 10cm diameter and dead straight. I can probably get a fair bit of it and throw it under my house for twelve months or so if you think it would be useable as that should season it properly I would think?

Koffee_Kosmo

I was told once that a Pecan is part of the Hickory family I got this info from the web

The wood of the pecan tree is used for furniture, flooring, and panelling due to the wood's heavy weight, varying contrast of the grain, strength, and closed wood pore

RichardM

Koffee Kosmo wrote:

I was told once that a Pecan is part of the Hickory family I got this info from the web

The wood of the pecan tree is used for furniture, flooring, and panelling due to the wood's heavy weight, varying contrast of the grain, strength, and closed wood pore

KK

Yep, I found similar things. I'm just not sure if the colour is nice enough to be used for anything. Seems a bit....brown. Google tells me it's a fantastic timber to smoke meat with, so maybe I'll start collecting it anyway. I've got around 100 square metres of dry space under the house that I can utilise, with >1m clearance for over half of it (did someone say smokehouse 😃 😃 😃 )

Koffee_Kosmo

Yep, I found similar things. I'm just not sure if the colour is nice enough to be used for anything. Seems a bit....brown.

You can always use a light stain to enhance the grain and tweak the colour KK

RichardM

AngerManagement wrote:

Wast not want not and why just toss it out..

Indeed. I find it astounding that we live in a society where someone who has a pecan tree in their backyard will cut it up, throw it in the bin, then go buy wood for smoking.... So wasteful. Anyway, I'll keep it in mind and try and just get a fair few long pieces for under the house, and coat the ends in primer. That keeps the options open for either using for smoking, or taking down to Brisbane and offloading to you next trip if you're interested. Not sure how long before I'll get the next branches though. We'll see.

Lacehim

RichardM, I wouldn't be storing timber under your house. Termites might be attracted and that can be a nightmare. Somewhere away from your house off the ground and under a tarp would do.

RichardM

Lacehim wrote:

RichardM, I wouldn't be storing timber under your house. Termites might be attracted and that can be a nightmare. Somewhere away from your house off the ground and under a tarp would do.

I think because it's hardwood, and I'd be storing on metal planks, and away from any of the steel posts (which get inspected yearly), I'd be right...I hope 🙂. I do have another place though between the shed and our neighbouring fence that would work alright.

Lacehim

RichardM wrote:

I think because it's hardwood, and I'd be storing on metal planks, and away from any of the steel posts (which get inspected yearly), I'd be right...I hope 🙂. I do have another place though between the shed and our neighbouring fence that would work alright.

My pest fella always writes comments on my pest report if there is any loose timber on the ground near the house to get it removed. Even old tree stumps away from the house!!! Should be alright near the shed though. They are nasty little buggers (the termites, not the pest control man 🙂 ) How big was the bit of wood you got off ebay? Big enough to do 4 little group handles????

Lacehim

AngerManagement wrote:

Had a look but tired and could not find teh specs / pics of yours... Remember wood show on this weekend so get me teh info ASAP as I may come across some bits that would suit at the right price.

Well the lights na good at this time of night, but this will give you an idea. I measured them up and did a drawing for sizes, also bascially it would be nice to have the same but with a more rounded bum. 😉 The machines red with stainless. My thinking was a nice dark red wood would be nice, but see what you can pickup at the show. 🙂 Also would love some handles made up (yes I know I'm pushing my luck). They are max 45mm long (stem to top of handle) to 35mm wide (across the star shaped handle). A tad bigger on the handle would be good. My hands get a bit sore turning them because they are so small. Can bring them down before you start making them for a look, but it will give you a heads up as to size.

Lacehim

The handle is moulded as one and the thread is plastic too internally. Can be seen in the photos a bit. I took the handle and the lever off. They are small. The Pvl is small. 😉 would prefer Same size but rounded after 85mm. Need x 4 too. 2 groups and 2 lever handles. 😉 Not asking much am I. Not sure about threads. I don't have any tools to determine that but a m10 nut fits the same as the existing plastic handles so the same thread as that 😉

Lacehim

I will have to visit Bunnings again to find out. Sorry. Anyway here are a few photos for you. A bit better in day light with the camera. Group Handle thread Close up - threaded length 30mm Lever thread Close up - threaded length 30mm Handle where the thread goes in, there is a 3 or 4mm with no thread, then it starts but the handle sits flush with the stainless steel lever/chromed group where the thread stops. I hope that makes sense. bog standard coles matchbox for sizing. Does that help? A side on photo of the handle with a matchbox. You can see they are a little small. I would like them a smidge (technical term I know) bigger. I don't know how to get the buggers off though. No screws, bolts or anything.

Lacehim

Went to Bunnings today. No info at all regarding the pitch, or even a way to gauge it. It's just an M10 nut, that was the only desciption on the ticket. I even tried looking on the boxes etc too. Sorry. Bunnings at Noosa are getting a new store, I hope it improves! I will just bring the handle down sometime soon so that you can have a look. Are there any days during the week that your usually home?

Lacehim

AM, I hope you don't mind me asking, but how are you using the pitch tap? I'm just curious how you go about doing what you are doing. Any chance of a "how to" make handles with photos??? I would just be interested.

RichardM

AngerManagement wrote:

3: Use a coach screw - thread one end to suit group 4: Drill hole in handle and screw in teh coach screw

I think you mean coach BOLT, right? This reminds me, I really need to reoil my handle. It's standing up really well, but drying a little now so has lost a little bit of colour. Will put it on my to do list tomorrow.

Lacehim

Sounds good AM. Out of interest could you not source some threaded sleves, drill a hole dead centre in the handle, then glue in the metal sleve? Or is that the inserts that you are talking about???

RichardM

What kind of timber are we talking about? Would I be correct in saying the super hard Red Gum had no issues threading? Would that just be because of the crazy density of it?

Lacehim

Great timing with the inserts eh. Thanks for rushing to finish them for me AM. The handles are totally amazing. 8) Lovely grain, and now on the machine and totally makes the Lusso unique. The inserts are a perfect match for the thread. Nice job. I will post up a photo tomorrow after my morning coffee. I will measure up the taps for you if you fancy doing them too. They look totally out of place now with your great workmanship on display. They really look the part. So impressed. 🙂 AM, I might have a contact with mature coffee trees. Will ask about anything that might be useful for you woodwise. What sort of size wood do you need roughly? ie a minimum that I can specify.

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