Lever Espresso Machines

takeaim

I've only had a few shots from a 50's Faema Urania that I helped source for The Maling Room but that was years go. Wondering how much of a difference there is between say an old Faema and Boema and also between a modern lever.

RichardM

I know this is a long shot, but considering the number of new coffee machines bought, and the number of old people dying (my tact is out the window tonight, sorry), that a fair few of these kinds of machines would be thrown out when their kids come to "clean out" the house, not realising what they are. Would there be many of these go to scrap metal places, the tip, salvo's etc?

beanflying

Small domestics are a bit different to commercials for throwoutability. Over time I have seen them come up on evilbay for sale with don't know how it works, went back to instunt, found in shed etc In most cases the people who finish up with them just don't know and won't have a grinder so whatever they make will be worse than international roast. The numbers of quality old italian commercial machine in Oz seems to be fairly low and a lot of them change hands by word of mouth or extended word of mouth more than evilbay.

kualitycoffee

Lacehim wrote:

KK, That's a Ponte Vecchio Lusso 1 group (and it's know by other names, SAMA, DAMPA and Ponte Vecchio). Probably Attilio's idea of "tiny, immorally overpriced kitchen ornaments masquerading as quality coffee machines" 😉 My personal opinion is that it's what ever floats your boat. What I like, another won't like. I personally can't justify having a 60kg machine sitting in my kitchen. My vote KK is that if you wait for the plumbable model with no pump. KISS. Less to go wrong, and it's plumbed too. Lovely. AM, Plenty of machines on the Italian ebay, just pull a few photos off to give them an example. Oh and get me one too 😉 Your wife should be happy! You could take her to Sicily for a holiday then you can find them yourself and fill a container send it home and refurb them back here and make a killing. AM's lever paradise. 🙂

Amen Amen Amen to that! he will then need to convince the good women, maybe more than one, to build a new workshop (garage)!!! But hey AM this idea does have some merrite just think of the attention you will receive from the good women? Does she make better coffee than you? You see she justs wants a machine that works. I'm lucky my lady does not like coffee in any form. This is good for me of course.

Cuppacoffee

There was a 3 group Bo-ema lever for sale on an auction site that was just passed in without a bid. Like me, I'm guessing a number of members here saw it. It looks to be in good condition and just wondering why you feel it wasn't snapped up?

askthecoffeeguy

RichardM wrote:

I know this is a long shot, but considering the number of new coffee machines bought, and the number of old people dying (my tact is out the window tonight, sorry), that a fair few of these kinds of machines would be thrown out when their kids come to "clean out" the house, not realising what they are. Would there be many of these go to scrap metal places, the tip, salvo's etc?

I'm in regular contact with a gentlemen from Italy who specialises in buying and restoring lever machines and he regularly has a few at his disposal -so feel free to pm me folks if you're genuinely interested in the goods - although if it was parting with that kind of hard earned, I'd wanna fly over and inspect first hand! Also there seems to be a few available in NZ from time to time, on a local auction site...

UNM

Cuppacoffee wrote:

There was a 3 group Bo-ema lever for sale on an auction site that was just passed in without a bid. Like me, I'm guessing a number of members here saw it. It looks to be in good condition and just wondering why you feel it wasn't snapped up?

In my limited experience, 3 group machines of any type get passed in far more often than 1 and 2 groups. Perhaps that is why and iirc beanflying got his 3 group Izzo for a good price after it was passed in at least once.

coffeehorse

Partly the brand - Boema have produced some /really/ awful products, partly the age - late 80s/early90s is unfashionable and had poor QC, and partly the 3gr nature means they're often 20A instead of 15W with the possibility of getting them down to less than 11A. Also weight - 80kg+ is a lot different to 40-65kg. The combo of brand, weight and age means perceived difficulty selling on, while probably no-one wants a machine they can't sell in times where money is hard to come by? Just guessing here.

Cuppacoffee

I wouldn't have considered owning a 3 group Bo-ema until recently. In an odd way, they're kitch, and I do like them much more now. Having sold my lever recently, despite still having possession of it, I miss it already. The Aussie brand appeals to me. I've made some enquiries to the owner and might end up owning it. Oh well, we'll see how it goes.

beanflying

Different thing buying a 3 group for the home kitchen, I suspect the SO approval factor would be below zero. I was having a little drool over at the KVW site last night and I was wondering if the lady uses a riser block behind the counter to get to the levers 🙂 Rancilio Class 6 I think.

RichardM

beanflying wrote:

Different thing buying a 3 group for the home kitchen, I suspect the SO approval factor would be below zero.

My missus let me have a 1m wide bench. Whatever coffee gear I can fit on that, I can have 🙂 🙂 - Wouldn't leave much space for a grinder though.

Gra

Have just spotted this worth a look if your after a lever machine.. 😉 http://perth.gumtree.com.au/c-Stuff-for-Sale-other-stuff-for-sale-La-Cimbali-Eleva-2-group-lever-ESPRESSO-COFFEE-machine-W0QQAdIdZ294703412 Cheers Gra..

UNM

And he even said on that other forum that price is very negotiable to see it go to a good home. I am tempted, very nice looking machine.

beanflying

Think this thread needs more pictures 🙂 Couple of my larger Levers in use.

Cuppacoffee

Nice machines BF. I just hope AM doesn't notice those leads lying around! ;D

beanflying

All better now that was just the test location and the old kitchen 😉 Here is 2 of the smaller flavour ;D

beanflying

To far south and in to small a town for decent ginger :-[ The version of the Pavoni I have is already fully loaded with Timber including the boiler fill.

galumay

I have an Izzo Pompeii Single Group Lever and it took my coffee to a whole new level. I find I can pull consistently great shots with minimal effort. I came from a Bezzera BZ35e - a pretty damn good machine in its own right, but not a patch on a commercial spring lever. Its also easier for my wife to pull great shots on, consistently, she loves the fact its so much less messy than a pump driven machine and she is much more confident pulling shots for visitors. I also love the quietness, combined with a Pharos hand grinder its almost a zen experience extracting coffee! I am a total convert to the Lever. emotji chosen by my son ??? Oh, nice to see some old online coffee mates here, Anger Management, Koffee Kosmo and Beanflying to name a few!

littleroundman

I just gotta say: that is one of the most stunning pieces of equipment I can remember seeing, in any field.

Koffee_Kosmo

I like levers and I am a convert in a big way I do however prefer a plumbed in model When my tax check comes in I think that I will be getting the demo Strega from Barazi Over on Home Barista some have modified the tank models to operate as plumbed in thus eliminating the pump So this is a bonus and a win win scenario for me KK

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