Hmm, maybe I just don't know what I am doing :pan. I had grind time on 11 and grind on 15, usually I grind on around 7-8. This morning I had to take Matt to his place of work experience so I switched the machine on before I left sthen it would be ready to rock when I got home. SV was perfect, even the espresso sip I had was palatable :coffee2:.