Do I need a KKTO?

GaryatGala

I forgot to mention another reason to get it was to roast for others. I'm the only coffee drinker in the house, so the Baby Roaster does fine in that regards, but since i've got people wanting beans from me on a regular basis, now i want to give them something better in the cup than the coretto. No matter what i do, shorter roast times, longer roast times, DMM logging all the way, uncovered, covered, insulated etc i find the taste quite acidic. As an espresso, it is brighter and acidic compared to the Baby Roaster. As a milk coffee, this acidity does put it in it's favour a bit, especially if sugar is added. I just want something that's affordable, can roast a 500 - 700gm batches and is a drum roasting principle. That's where the KKTO fits the bill for me. This waiting is going to kill me a bit, but i'll have to be patient til christmas, so in the meantime, i'll be saving up all the tips from the restaurant customers. Then after the KKTO, maybe i'll go for the Breville 😉 Gary at G

Brett_H

GaryatGala wrote:

I forgot to mention another reason to get it was to roast for others. I'm the only coffee drinker in the house, so the Baby Roaster does fine in that regards, but since i've got people wanting beans from me on a regular basis, now i want to give them something better in the cup than the coretto. No matter what i do, shorter roast times, longer roast times, DMM logging all the way, uncovered, covered, insulated etc i find the taste quite acidic. As an espresso, it is brighter and acidic compared to the Baby Roaster. As a milk coffee, this acidity does put it in it's favour a bit, especially if sugar is added. I just want something that's affordable, can roast a 500 - 700gm batches and is a drum roasting principle. That's where the KKTO fits the bill for me. This waiting is going to kill me a bit, but i'll have to be patient til christmas, so in the meantime, i'll be saving up all the tips from the restaurant customers. Then after the KKTO, maybe i'll go for the Breville 😉 Gary at G

The batch size of the KK and the taste were the big draw cards for me... that and I had all of the bits around the house. You won't know yourself Gary come Christmas. But surely Perth is like Townsville... Don't ya just leave he beans in the sun to roast? :rofl:

GaryatGala

Hi there Brett. Hee hee, The north west part of this state can certainly guarantee divots and scorching of the beans together with cooking bacon n eggs on the rocks there. Down here in Perth though, the weather has been acting strange. Broke the October record for wettest month and very mild temps. Blaming it on the Queen who's bought in the British weather to CHOGM. Getting towwy now. The coffee journey is a source of sweet pain. I'm not one to steal, beg or borrow. Prefer to save up the old fashioned way. The joy of looking forward to a new toy. . . :tearhair: Gary at G

Brett_H

I can guarantee it'll be worth the wait... Like chogm... Although you probably can't wait for that to be over!

Muscles

Yesterday I roasted 500g of the Geisha from Bean Green, 1st crack at 11:30 and pulled at 15:30 before 2nd crack. I couldn't resist trying it today and am impressed already. Will try it again in a few days. I also roasted some of the Colombian SW Decaf for the wife today, another 500g batch in the KKTO and it looks awesome. 1st crack at 11:05 and I dumped when 2nd came at 15:50. Think I'll be trying my first ever decaf... Oh, both of the two above batches were with a halogen TO. I know I wasn't doing the 1kg like my first roast but it did seem easier to get up to temp and to control the heat between 1st and 2nd cracks with teh halogen. I love my KKTO! ;D

coffeehorse

Should the mods just delete all the replies on this topic, make it a sticky, and edit the original post content to 'Yes.'?

GaryatGala

coffeehorse wrote:

Should the mods just delete all the replies on this topic, make it a sticky, and edit the original post content to 'Yes.'?

In my defense, i have not yet acquired the KKTO, so i was making enquiries about this roaster. I have 3 other roasters in my stable, so i did ask myself the question, "Do I Need A KKTO?" With the help of these wonderful people on this forum, they helped me to decide, and that is Yes! I do need a KKTO. Not just because of another roaster in the ever growing stable, but for the search of a better cup. Why delete these replies? We spent a good part of our time putting words and thoughts together to support and help each other in this community. Gary at G

Koffee_Kosmo

Excellent news fellow roasters I am very pleased that everyone is getting good results from the KKTO design It has been a great success with many happy users around the world I still answer several emails per day helping someone out with a DIY problem Most of you may know that I have 20+ design variations to the theme I have been entertaining the idea of a new model that is not a kit Recently I have combined all the best aspects of the many design variations and put them down to paper Next step is to get a cost to produce and if all the stars align I may proceed I need to seek advice on -- at what price point it will break the camels back KK

Brett_H

Koffee Kosmo wrote:

Excellent news fellow roasters I am very pleased that everyone is getting good results from the KKTO design It has been a great success with many happy users around the world I still answer several emails per day helping someone out with a DIY problem Most of you may know that I have 20+ design variations to the theme I have been entertaining the idea of a new model that is not a kit Recently I have combined all the best aspects of the many design variations and put them down to paper Next step is to get a cost to produce and if all the stars align I may proceed I need to seek advice on -- at what price point it will break the camels back KK

Wow. Very exciting times indeed! What batch size would the new model run to?

Koffee_Kosmo

Brett H wrote:

Wow. Very exciting times indeed! What batch size would the new model run to?

Same as now But with greater heat stability & retention control Isn't 700 grams enough with the possibility of 1 Kg 😉 To roast a greater weight I need to have the TO specially made for me & that will involve a minimum order of 1000 units Plus extra costs to have it made with a plug and play profile control Anybody with large deep pockets or an electronic guru care to help out ;D KK

Brett_H

Koffee Kosmo wrote:

Same as now But with greater heat stability & retention control Isn't 700 grams enough with the possibility of 1 Kg 😉 To roast a greater weight I need to have the TO specially made for me & that will involve a minimum order of 1000 units Plus extra costs to have it made with a plug and play profile control Anybody with large deep pockets or an electronic guru care to help out ;D KK

I'm thinking a theme and variation: a cement truck with a jet engine aimed at it. Roast capacity of 1.5 tons and ultimate bragging rights... What could possibly go wrong?

Kelsey

Well you'd need to get the agitation blades right. 😉

Lacehim

Borat where did you get the braided probe from? That might have been my issue... I might revisit the whole DMM thing again.

WotB

Unless it was arranged. Then you're not allowed to see, smell or hear until it's too late.

Brett_H

WotB wrote:

Unless it was arranged. Then you're not allowed to see, smell or hear until it's too late.

:rofl: Gold!

Muscles

A question for all you KKTO owners and I am sure it's probably been asked before: how do you clean the TO lid? Will mild soapy water cut it or should I use some of the E61 cleaning powder that Matt ever so kindly gave me with my cup order? I want to write a review on it and need to take some pics but I want the KKTO looking it's best and it'd be handy to see what's going on inside again 🙂

Koffee_Kosmo

Muscles wrote:

A question for all you KKTO owners and I am sure it's probably been asked before: how do you clean the TO lid? Will mild soapy water cut it or should I use some of the E61 cleaning powder that Matt ever so kindly gave me with my cup order? I want to write a review on it and need to take some pics but I want the KKTO looking it's best and it'd be handy to see what's going on inside again 🙂

Use rinsing water with care I use back-flush powder and a partially wet not scratch scourer sponge Take care not to squeeze water in the TO electronics Rub gently on the glass keeping the TO at a downward angle as a precaution Wipe off access with a wet cloth several times and rinsing off soap/chemical from cloth as needed until gleaming If you have a steady hand you can rinse under a slow running tap again keeping the TO at a downward angle then finish off with a cloth KK

Muscles

Thanks KK, I'll just roll up the sleeves and give it a go. I'll try the espresso machine cleaner from E61, some hot water and lots of elbow grease. I won't be using it for another 5 days so it will have plenty of time to dry out.

Koffee_Kosmo

Muscles wrote:

Thanks KK, I'll just roll up the sleeves and give it a go. I'll try the espresso machine cleaner from E61, some hot water and lots of elbow grease. I won't be using it for another 5 days so it will have plenty of time to dry out.

It actually comes off & cleans very easily and it only takes about 10 minutes :thumb: KK

Muscles

Hmm, maybe you clean yours more regularly or you use a stronger solution with the cafetto because I just spent 15 minutes in a 2 inch squared section of the glass and could still see brown staining. Never fear though - a small dab of selleys blue-gel oven cleaner and it was as easy as wipe on, wipe off. Next, a quick rinse with espresso cleaner solution that was still in the sink and dry with paper towel. I'll make sure I do a 1/2 hour emprty roast to cook off any remnants before roasting in it next weekend. :thumb:

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