I saw it at the launch in Milano in October, where it was billed as being just the ticket for environments where space on top of the bench top is at a premium. In my usual way, I annunciated the first thought that sprang to mind and said......"ok...due to lack of space on the benchtop you put it inside the cupboard underneath........so, what do you do with the stuff you used to keep in the cupboard that nolonger fits because you put a coffee machine in there?...." :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Forever the practical one. Then they demoed the I-app thing and made me feel left out as I dont do I-stuff. 😃 Make no mistake, some sections of the community will lap it up and if it does a good job and is RELIABLE in service, it will go well, but only time will tell. A.