MILK PERMEATE

Jonty

Spoke with wife who works in quality at local milk factory. She tells me that all milk has permeate init. It is used to standardize the milk into range. Legally in Victoria, milk can contain upto 15% she tells me & can be tasted from upto addition of 10%.

RichardM

Jonty wrote:

Spoke with wife who works in quality at local milk factory. She tells me that all milk has permeate in it. It is used to standardise the milk into range. Legally in Victoria, milk can contain up to 15% she tells me & can be tasted from up to addition of 10%.

I personally can't tell the taste difference (I drink lactose free milk normally though). The quality of milk really comes out in the texturing for me. I don't know if that's permeate, or what the cows ate for breakfast...I just know which milks I like using, and which ones I don't.

UNM

Me too, I can't taste the difference between milk with and without permeate.

Seeya_Latte

Not sure if this is the spot to mention this *note* There is a current product recall for A2 milk (exp date 1 May) for Vic and Nsw - issued today 18/4 http://www.recalls.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/1012071

Koffee_Kosmo

Seeya Latte wrote:

Not sure if this is the spot to mention this *note* There is a current product recall for A2 milk (exp date 1 May) for Vic and Nsw - issued today 18/4 http://www.recalls.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/1012071

The reason for the recall - Is not Permeate Its synthetic fibre - probably from machinery Still good to know :thumb:

Food products containing foreign synthetic matter may cause injury if consumed. What are the defects? The recall is due to foreign matter (foreign synthetic fibre) that has been found in a small number of isolated samples.

askthecoffeeguy

I've heard permeate described as looking a lot like snot or green slime - keep it out of my coffee thanks !

UNM

askthe coffeeguy wrote:

I've heard permeate described as looking a lot like snot or green slime

Soylent green perhaps? I am glad I don't touch the stuff.

Seeya_Latte

askthe coffeeguy wrote:

I've heard permeate described as looking a lot like snot or green slime - keep it out of my coffee thanks !

And with the left over snot......they just add some puff pastry, let it cool and 'voila' ....a Vanilla Slice ! 😃

Jonty

I cannot post a pic as my wife took a photo of WCB coffee machine as she didn't want it up but they use it to test every batch for 'frothability'. They use a Boema Caffe unit. They also employ a barista to do the job 🙂 And this national award for Warrnambool Cheese and Butter summed up my earlier post on 'frothy milk': http://www.standard.net.au/news/local/news/general/cream-of-the-frothy-drops/249...

beanflying

I was reminded by a Twitter post that not all milk has permeates in it either. Procal http://www.procal.com.au/ and http://www.jonesysdairyfresh.com/ for a couple and several other smaller milk suppliers would be worth asking the question about. Schulz Organic in Timboon (available in Melbourne) I am 99% is permeate free too.

Muscles

A2 and Pauls Farmhouse Gold are Permeate free. Funny how they are the only two that the wife and I can drink without need to use the bathroom soon after... Looks like we are not Lactose intolerant, we are permeate intolerant.

RichardM

Muscles wrote:

A2 and Pauls Farmhouse Gold are Permeate free. Funny how they are the only two that the wife and I can drink without need to use the bathroom soon after... Looks like we are not Lactose intolerant, we are permeate intolerant.

I'm definitely lactose intolerant, and tested as such - but these days can tolerate small amounts. A2 doesn't cause me as many issues though. Farmhouse gold still upsets my guts a bit. It's quite possible that the lactose level in the permeate blended milks are just higher.

blackbird

Every single milk producer in australia and NZ from what ive heard does this, as per usual its a media beat up!!!! to make uninformed consumers scared.

UNM

blackbird wrote:

Every single milk producer in australia and NZ from what ive heard does this, as per usual its a media beat up!!!! to make uninformed consumers scared.

Perhaps consumers should be scared. Just because every producer does it, does not make it good (although that is not actually the case, some small producers do not). If you think about it rationally, milk consumption is actually pretty weird. How about drinking pig blood instead? That is no more strange, yet most people go 'Ewww!' At the thought of it. They may even consider it cruel to tap an animals blood regularly and yet milking is ok. Humans are strange beasts.

Koffee_Kosmo

Just saw a Pauls Milk advert The main message was our milk is naturally "Permeate Free" KK

Ronin

Paramalat and Dairy Farmers I did this morning advertising permeate free.

Koffee_Kosmo

We started discussing this topic months befor the TV current affair type show hype

Ronin

Intersecting reading on CS. I saw it on Sunrise this morning, ah the perils of being sick while on holidays :head:

galumay

Koffee Kosmo wrote:

We started discussing this topic months befor the TV current affair type show hype

I doubt it KK, ACA have been flogging this dead horse for years, its basically a beat up and if you talk to people in the industry there is a huge amount of misinformation out there - half of it spread by milk producers to scare consumers off competitors products. From what I can find out they DO NOT add cheese permeate to milk, they do add back in a specific quantity of MILK permeate in order to deliver consistent flavour in milk across the seasonal variations, its a natural component of milk and the whole ACA beatup is another example of their shameful lack of journalistic integrity. The end result of permeate free milk will be nothing other than more expensive milk with greater variety in taste and texture through the year.

Koffee_Kosmo

Tricky little devils aren't they I haven't seen a current affairs show for many, many years ( how lucky am I) KK