Londinium I Lever Espresso Machine

Kelsey

Very much so. I know that some if the saner heads on this forum are being shaken right now, but there's certainly romance to a nicely put together lever machine.

Caffeinated

Looks nice... Will there be storage for cups on top?

Kelsey

I don't think so - pretty sure Reiss has said that there won't be a cup warmer.

Lacehim

No. There is no cup rail to keep your cups on there, BUT you can stick cups on the top. if you want to keep them warm. The little cover at the back is for filling the tank, so you'll need access to that. It would be nice to the Quick Mill, Strega & Londinium reviewed together wouldn't it. That would be an interesting shootout.

Kelsey

I'd be interested in that. I reckon there wouldn't be much between them - down to very personal preferences in each case. Someone sells these rubber and SS cup warmer sheets that are designed to protect your machine from scratches. One of those would hold the cups in place without the rails.

conikal

Yes, another vote for the comparison review , ..but i would also like to see the Fracino "Retro" lever included also.. Same group, same manufacturer, similar price ... but little review info available ?

Ol_Grumpy

Oh Yeah.... Bring on the review... Strega, QM & L1 Lets invite KK, Lacehim and an International Judge... Reiss? To battle it out! Shots at 10 paces anyone? Perhaps, "Who's got the biggest spring? Or who has the best phallic handle mod...? Yeah, Nah we will need an Umpire to keep the peace... I vote Galumay he'll keep Em honest! Dammit lets chuck the Izzo in- just for interest sake... Go the God Shot! Anyone wanna give me odds on the last man standing? What a hoot! :bloodbath

Koffee_Kosmo

Happy to be involved But it's rare for me not to pull a super shot as its normal day to day :stir :stir KK

conikal

Reiss, I have only just noticed that the distinctive sexy "twisted" lever arm that you teased us with on the prototype, has not made it on to the production m/c's ?? 😢 ??? 😢 🙁

Brett_H

Kelsey wrote:

I'd be interested in that. I reckon there wouldn't be much between them - down to very personal preferences in each case. Someone sells these rubber and SS cup warmer sheets that are designed to protect your machine from scratches. One of those would hold the cups in place without the rails.

Or... For $1.80 you can buy a silicone pot-holder from K-mart and cut it to fit because not all machines have he same cup-warmer/heating vent configuration :thumb: I really don't mind sending retailers $20 reduced from $30 but seriously??? Old Grumpy, I think you are getting a little too excited... Perhaps a switch to decaf for a while?? :stir

Kelsey

I was using something similar - heat resistant beaded rubber mesh from Clark rubber.... but it actually left a slight stain/imprint in the SS that was a PITA to get out... and if left long term, who knows?

Brett_H

Kelsey wrote:

I was using something similar - heat resistant beaded rubber mesh from Clark rubber.... but it actually left a slight stain/imprint in the SS that was a PITA to get out... and if left long term, who knows?

Ya needed to spend the big buck like me and go for silicone kitchenware. :rofl:

Kelsey

Because I don't already spend too much time obsessing about kitchenware!

Lacehim

I just thought this might be of interest to everyone on here. Reiss has loaned a Londinium for review, hopefully more will be posted as Glenn gets to grips with the machine (he's using a Vario too!). I was expecting a video by now! Mods, I hope this link is okay, it's a direct link to the review on another forum. http://coffeeforums.co.uk/showthread.php?7632-LONDINIUM-I-spring-lever-espresso-machine Reiss if your still taking an interest here, can you advise if/when a nakid group handle will be available? I assume that it will fit my Quick Mill because they use the same group. 🙂

Kelsey

They're certainly generating some buzz, good on 'em.

Lacehim

I found much improvement is having my machine up higher at around 1m+. I wonder if the Londinium would be the same? 900mm just felt awkward, but I'm 6ft1.

Kelsey

Not ideal, I'd guess - but do-able and something you'd get used to. Or build the muscles pretty fast! I was surprised at the heft required to pull down the Achilles lever.

Caffeinated

Lacehim wrote:

No. There is no cup rail to keep your cups on there, BUT you can stick cups on the top. if you want to keep them warm. The little cover at the back is for filling the tank, so you'll need access to that.

Yes. The Giotto is similar as I remember. I still don't get why you wouldn't want one. I like this machine, but I will plumb it in if I buy one so it would not have a tank. Without some sort of cup rail, it seems to me that it is a recipe for broken cups. I guess it will be a job for the retrofitters. More thinking to do.

conikal

Caffeinated wrote:

Without some sort of cup rail, it seems to me that it is a recipe for broken cups. I guess it will be a job for the retrofitters. More thinking to do.

If you read the Londinium blog ( or the other posts in this thread,) you will see that Reiss has explained why there is no cup rail. Maybe you could think where /how else to store your cups. ?

Caffeinated

conikal wrote:

If you read the Londinium blog ( or the other posts in this thread,) you will see that Reiss has explained why there is no cup rail. Maybe you could think where /how else to store your cups. ?

Yes. Maybe I could or maybe I would like them safe and warm. Sorry. I haven't read all of the hundreds of responses in this thread or 56 pages of blog yet. The only reference I could find on a quick scan was that it heats up quickly. I can't see what that has to do with it? It wouldn't stop me from buying one, but I would have it modified if I do. I think the top of a machine makes sense for cup storage.

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