Isomac maverick

C-man

This one never even got a bid, when older Gaggia's were going for $200+ pretty stupid when new ones are only $349

Anyway I think I can get it for a good price, it is a 2009 purchased from mew.

just can't find any information on it. I think it may not have a 3-way solenoid or something like that.

you guys would know...

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&item=170880609768&nma=true&rt=nc&si=eC5goJ2h4dKxjyWlelSC1%252FTioGk%253D&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

Lacehim

150ml brass boiler, no 3 way solenoid valve, 1000w element? stainless frame adjustable height drip tray is about the only pro!

derrilex

Mmmmm nice extraction in the photos. Or is it tea 😃

C-man

I think it is 220ml boiler what does the 3-way solenoid valve do anyway?

Jetblack_Espresso

don't get a machine without a 3 way solenoid. it relieves the brew pressure at the end of the extraction. charlie

C-man

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDI2UpfTWTY skip to the end and there is a better shot

C-man

Jetblack Espresso wrote:

don't get a machine without a 3 way solenoid. it relieves the brew pressure at the end of the extraction. charlie

then why would they make one with out it?

C-man

so it is a piece of shit then?

Lacehim

C-man, you still haven't answered my question on the other thread. What do you want from a machine? Are you still focused on steam only? Or are you wanting a good machine to brew coffee and steam? Posting up "is this machine ok" posts isn't really going achieve much if we don't know what your needs/wants are. If you know what I mean.

FreshCoffee2

Lacehim wrote:

C-man, you still haven't answered my question on the other thread. What do you want from a machine?......................Posting up "is this machine ok" posts isn't really going achieve much if we don't know what your needs/wants are. If you know what I mean.

Eggzackary. Suggest first, what is the budget? Buying cheap is not a reason for buying something or anything, just forthe sake of buying it.....eg used isomac maverick at $249.00.....if you can spare $999, looking at $249 is the wrong way of going about it. What is your budget, and what do you want? If you are not sure what you want and it is these forums that are confusing you with the "wind up" factor that is common in them, dont do anything yet. Wait until you have worked out what you want and how much money you have. For Example: If you have a budget of up to 2 thou for a machine only, you would be mad to walk past one of our new BFC Diadema Junior PUL models that are still at end of fin year stock take sale price (they're HX and E61). Fantastic machines and very forgiving of new owners for a commercial quality brew. It doesnt get any better than that. Forget buying more technical machines that would have been more exi at new price even if you can get them in this price bracket second hand, because after all's said and done and you have allowed yourself to be wound up in the forums with the promise of their bells and whistles, they wont do anything for you that this baby wont do especially for a new and inexperienced owner that needs to learn the ropes. And you will get a new machine guarantee. If you have 1 thou, you are looking at new silvia /lelit type machines OR, lower end older HX machines at used machine price. Some of them are gems, others arent so be careful wrt used machine condition and age. If you have less than that, I would stop all this nonsence and save a bit more, or you will not reap the benefit of looking at better equipment than you have found at this time. It may sound harsh, but it may stop you from making a costly (no matter how cheap it was ) mistake. Hope that helps 😉

C-man

Lacehim wrote:

C-man, you still haven't answered my question on the other thread. What do you want from a machine? Are you still focused on steam only? Or are you wanting a good machine to brew coffee and steam? Posting up "is this machine ok" posts isn't really going achieve much if we don't know what your needs/wants are. If you know what I mean.

to answer the question, the little machine I use now for the milk is about to die, so I will need to buy something for the milk anyway, any milk steamer worthy will be at least $100 because we like nice milk. so I thought for $200-300 I could get a second hand machine that will steam milk and also pull a decent shots and save the Presso for travel. Like suggested a entry level machine like the Gaggia clasic with a silvia wand or the maverick or maybe a Silvia unless someone can suggest something else. the trouble is when I start looking at entry level machines I quickly get E61 envy.

FreshCoffee2

C-man wrote:

..............so I thought for $200-300 I could get a second hand machine that will steam milk and also pull a decent shots and save the Presso for travel..........Like suggested a entry level machine like the Gaggia clasic with a silvia wand or the maverick or maybe a Silvia unless someone can suggest something else. the trouble is when I start looking at entry level machines I quickly get E61 envy.

You wont get "decent" shots out of something that costs 2 to 3 bills, if by "decent" you mean all the intangible stuff that people talk about in these forums including so called god shots etc.......what are your expectations? (of a decent shot"). Or you might occasionally get one ( a decent shot), but have to constantly contend with the result of having bought a bottom end machine...... (Quote AM above: "...No not at all... They are not shit....What they require is special attention and most people today, can't manage that...." End of quote. and wrt "E61 Envy" I ask again, what is your budget? You could be pleasantly surprised if you are willing to extend yourself a bit (and call us). I like to see people getting into good equipment that they will get a great deal of satisfaction from long term, and I hate seeing people waste their money short term and have to buy again. These forums can be responsible for both........Buy once and buy right, its cheaper 😉

C-man

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R676gT9yDJY

C-man

seriously any of these shots! look haw jacked he gets at the end. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrzZKz-Cznw

derrilex

C-man, for $ 5 - 600 you could find yourself a old BZ99. I cant think of a better machine bang for buck 2nd hand. It would be pretty old for that money but age shall not weary them 😃

Koffee_Kosmo

derrilex wrote:

C-man, for $ 5 - 600 you could find yourself a old BZ99. I cant think of a better machine bang for buck 2nd hand. It would be pretty old for that money but age shall not weary them 😃

And sponsor Barazi has used ones with warrantee KK

derrilex

Good point KK :thumb:

Kelsey

Anything without a way to relieve pressure at the grouphead (i.e. 3-way solenoid) limits your ability to make good coffee. I started on one of this type of machine, with a Sunbeam EM3800. You quickly find yourself in a catch-22 situation with these things. They're designed for pressurised baskets and pre-ground stale supermarket coffee. I got my grinder first and an unpressurised basket to go with it - and immediately blew the portafilter off in what is known as the 'portafilter sneeze'. With no 3-way solenoid, the pressure has nowhere to go and the end result of too fine a grind is hot coffee grinds embedded into every nook and cranny of your kitchen with explosive force. The machine was never the same - wound up buckling the chassis a little. Nevertheless I struggled on and could get a somewhat passable brew, but it was always a tightrope. To coarse and it was terrible, too fine and it was decent but had fines in the cup, finer still and BOOM! At the end of the day, there's only so much you can get out of these machines because they're simply not designed for what people on this forum are trying to achieve. That's not to say they don't have a market - they absolutely do. It's just not with us. There is also a BZ99 on eBay right now. I can attest to the quality of these machines.

Brett_H

I'd be calling and visiting a retailer C-Man. Turn off the computer, go play with some machines and drink their coffee. eBay is great for the battle hardened and the experienced. If on the other hand you just want a coffee reliably... :coffee2:

Jetblack_Espresso

and an alternative to ebay: http://www.jetblackespresso.com.au/shop/ac/second-hand-coffee-machines/ but only if you prefer pre and post sales service 😉 charlie