The old chat box was the cause of most of our problems! It's gone, it's not coming back. :pan I've had a break for a bit because I have other things to get on with (life, kids, a business) an spent quite a few months getting the forum back to where it needs to be functionality wise and on a decent server beforehand. Really as BH said it comes down to content, and the members need to involve themselves with the site, ask questions, answer other people question as you get more sure of yourself. There is an off topic area if it's not about coffee. If the site isn't used, it will disappear or become obsolete unless people use it and take the time to engage with other like minded individuals.