Help me please :).

steve82

Brett H wrote:

Great thread guys. CB, would you do me a favour and make a shot that is 50mm in 25 seconds. In other words, grind a bit finer. See how that tastes.

Yeah 20g in for 51g out in 25sec is quite quick, just going by these numbers alone I would agree the grind is to coarse. Keep your dose the same, grind finer and look for 40g MAX out at 30sec as a starting point. You may even like it better at 36 - 38g out around the same time. This is why is pays to dial in a new coffee by weight, so you have a solid starting point and can then fine tune to your tastes by visually assessing the shot , then checking its weight after. After a while you will get to know your preferences pretty well and weighing a shot will just be to check / dial in a new coffee.

Cuir_Beluga

GeekKopi wrote:

keep us posted. And now back to my latte

I was just drooling over that on FB Geek ^-^.

Brett H wrote:

Great thread guys. CB, would you do me a favour and make a shot that is 50mm in 25 seconds. In other words, grind a bit finer. See how that tastes.

I sure will, just turning machine on now. Stay tuned 🙂.

steve82 wrote:

Yeah 20g in for 51g out in 25sec is quite quick, just going by these numbers alone I would agree the grind is to coarse. Keep your dose the same, grind finer and look for 40g MAX out at 30sec as a starting point. You may even like it better at 36 - 38g out around the same time. This is why is pays to dial in a new coffee by weight, so you have a solid starting point and can then fine tune to your tastes by visually assessing the shot , then checking its weight after. After a while you will get to know your preferences pretty well and weighing a shot will just be to check / dial in a new coffee.

Thanks Steve. I may have to start weighing in everything, I know I have said I will in the past but with a little one demanding attention, and not really knowing where to start, it is easier said than done. If I was to start again from scratch, weight wise, where is a good place to start? Machine is warming up so I will report back on Bretts idea later. Thanks again all 🙂.

GeekKopi

Cuir Beluga wrote:

I was just drooling over that on FB Geek ^-^. I sure will, just turning machine on now. Stay tuned 🙂. Thanks Steve. I may have to start weighing in everything, I know I have said I will in the past but with a little one demanding attention, and not really knowing where to start, it is easier said than done. If I was to start again from scratch, weight wise, where is a good place to start? Machine is warming up so I will report back on Bretts idea later. Thanks again all 🙂.

let us know how you go. Aim for a 50% brew ratio, ie 20 grams dry in and 40 grams liquid out (as per Steve's guideline). A reference volume is 60ml for a double shot and that includes crema, but as always cut it if it blonds closer to that upper limit As Brett stated play with your grind fineness. If it's blonding too early then it might be your basket prep technique (distribution and tamp) or the beans are stale (but I'm sure they aren't)

Cuir_Beluga

GeekKopi wrote:

let us know how you go. Aim for a 50% brew ratio, ie 20 grams dry in and 40 grams liquid out (as per Steve's guideline). A reference volume is 60ml for a double shot and that includes crema, but as always cut it if it blonds closer to that upper limit As Brett stated play with your grind fineness. If it's blonding too early then it might be your basket prep technique (distribution and tamp) or the beans are stale (but I'm sure they aren't)

That is pretty much what I got with Bretts suggestion Geek.....20gms coffee in-25 seconds, 50ml weighed 40gms. Taste wise the bitterness was still there, beans are 10 days post roast.

GeekKopi

Cuir Beluga wrote:

That is pretty much what I got with Bretts suggestion Geek.....20gms coffee in-25 seconds, 50ml weighed 40gms. Taste wise the bitterness was still there, beans are 10 days post roast.

When did it start blonding?

Cuir_Beluga

GeekKopi wrote:

When did it start blonding?

It didn't Geek. I'm going to pull my hair out for a bit and then try again.

Cuir_Beluga

I got to almost 80ml before blonding. I've had enough for one day, try again tomorrow :coffee2:.

GeekKopi

Cuir Beluga wrote:

I got to almost 80ml before blonding. I've had enough for one day, try again tomorrow :coffee2:.

80ml is quite a lot before blonding and it's got me puzzled. Have you seen this link http://www.home-barista.com/espresso-guide-good-extractions.html

Cuir_Beluga

I figured as much Geek, I have given up for a while. I will go and have a look now, thanks 🙂.

Brett_H

Cuir Beluga wrote:

I figured as much Geek, I have given up for a while. I will go and have a look now, thanks 🙂.

Before tomorrow's shot make sure the machine is on 30 minutes prior and run some water through the group (80-100ml) before pulling your shot.

Cuir_Beluga

Brett H wrote:

Before tomorrow's shot make sure the machine is on 30 minutes prior and run some water through the group (80-100ml) before pulling your shot.

Will do Brett, thanks :thumb:.

Cuir_Beluga

Okies, I have had 2 cuppas this morning, blonding just after the 60ml mark and tasting fine. Perhaps yesterday was just a bad hair day 🙁.

Brett_H

Good news!

GeekKopi

Cuir Beluga wrote:

Okies, I have had 2 cuppas this morning, blonding just after the 60ml mark and tasting fine. Perhaps yesterday was just a bad hair day 🙁.

great news sue. Keeping all other things consistent such as dose, distribution, tamp etc you just have to keep an eye on your grind settings throughout the day as the espresso shot can vary based on temp fluctuations and humidity.

Cuir_Beluga

Brett H wrote:

Good news!

It is indeed Brett 🙂.

GeekKopi wrote:

great news sue. Keeping all other things consistent such as dose, distribution, tamp etc you just have to keep an eye on your grind settings throughout the day as the espresso shot can vary based on temp fluctuations and humidity.

I've noticed the first one of the morning is near perfect and then it is usually downhill from there 😛.

GeekKopi

Cuir Beluga wrote:

It is indeed Brett 🙂. I've noticed the first one of the morning is near perfect and then it is usually downhill from there 😛.

Hi CB how has the coffee been since your bad hair day?

Cuir_Beluga

Hi Geek, I've had some real good ones and some not so good ones. I'm just playing around with things at the mo. I figure the best way to learn is to mess around with these things 😛. Thanks for asking 🙂.

Brett_H

Spot on CB! Keep up the research 😉

Cuir_Beluga

I will do Brett, I had a beauty of a cup this morning, really, really good :coffee2:.

Brett_H

Cuir Beluga wrote:

I will do Brett, I had a beauty of a cup this morning, really, really good :coffee2:.

There it is! The payoff for perseverance! :thumb:

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