My apologies, I was tired and I should never have printed that price. *Edited! And... edit to this post: Moony, I've re-read your post and I agree with Kelsey. Go back and clean them up yourself please! Moreover, I think you owe Fresh Coffee an apology! He is the only machine seller around these parts brave enough to give advice and that he would back it financially too....!!!! AND, as a retiree you've got to imagine he's personally not making a red-cent. Just pride and generously 'giving back' doing the talking. Think about that little chestnut for just a moment.... 5,4,3,2, :doh: