I don't think for a minute KK anyone doubts your transpancy or mechanical engineering knowledge and nous! Anybody who has used or serviced a Bezzera machine knows that they are quality machines. This would be apparent to you given your line of work and experience. KBean is just offering a point of difference and differences are good. It's what makes the world an interesting place. I don't have a Diadema on the bench at my home presently and that's okay but when I'm next in the market for a HX PID Cosmorex will be my first and last call! As consumers we spruik and laud our own decisions as the correct decision... even if they're not! Your machine is like a Ford and mine is a Holden. There's a new kid in town and he's making noise, waves and questioning the status quo. That can only be good for us consumers as everybody has to lift their game to compete for market share. Edit: I started this message before the arrival of 7 eight year olds for a pizza and movie birthday party. I see that there has been an excellent and conciliatory resolution. Thank you gentlemen!