Thanks Brett. Yeah, it's probable there were restrictions placed upon him when selling DBC to RFG and some of those constraints may have reached expiry. Things like non-compete clauses with terms, etc. but who knows and it's a private and confidential topic anyway. Raw coffee trading may not conflict with "essence" of what is DBC and therefore not subject to a breach. There is no doubt he has been the most successful businessman in Australian coffee history and kudos to him. In fact, anyone that makes a decent success in this difficult industry deserves a pat on the back. For PDB, it may be a case of difficult to **stay away ** - spend so much of your life learning and developing knowledge around coffee. Trading of green coffee needs to be a volume game for scale and efficiencies. Whilst we know a certain business in that other place does quite well out of it, that model is rather unique in the commercial realm as it evolved in a window of opportunity that has since narrowed considerably.