Hey Big Meow, This thread was just recently brought to my attention - firstly, an apology if there was any delay in reply to your request for information: I can't find any emails that I haven't answered recently so hopefully you've recieved a reply but in any case, feel free to call me anytime on 0439 511 881. Certainly a visit to Epic in west Perth is a great experience - the guys there are fanatics about all the minutae of espresso preparation and their ristrettos are some of the best in the country. Also, check out the new cafe in the CBD: Velvet Espresso on King Street - they're doing a great job as well. Again, apologies for my lack of response - feel free to call me and maybe drop through for a chat and a coffee at the Barista Academy. Cheers, Ben Bicknell ____________ Manager Head Trainer W.A. Barista Academy