thinking of buying a Kony E.....

borat123

Hi all,

I was sniffing around for a new grinder to go with the lever I crated over here, and came across a wholesaler offering what I think is a good price on a new Kony E. (about $1100 LESS than the retail price in Aust :o )

At this price it's just about a no brainer, but unlike my normal way of doing things, this time I thought I'd do a bit of research first....

Before I lash out and spend some more money, anyone had experience with it and can offer an opinion?

It will only be used at home, doing max of a couple of kilos a week. I sold the big Anfim commercial flat burr that I restored, along with the Cimbali two group. I'm hoping for something that won't produce clumps, offers consistent grind / dosing and is reasonably fast.

Ronin

You could far worse than a Kony E Borat. As the burs settle it becomes faster and less clumps. That said the clumps are light and break up easily with a light tap of the group handle after grinding. Takes about 8 seconds to grind a double for ristretto, little faster for espresso grind. No where near a robur but the price reflects that. Grinds consistently, burs are expensive to replace compared to a flat bur major. I like my Kony and wouldn't replace it, I do manual dose though. I find it more consistent and easier than changing the timer. Hope it helps Oh get a black one, they look better ;D

Koffee_Kosmo

If size is an issue then the Kony is a great grinder My BNZ MD74 is a Robur equivalent and although has a more industrial look it is the size of the Kony - but the BNZ in not available as an E that I know of To answer your question - The Kony or the Robur Both are good but if you can get a good price on the Robur then it would be my choice KK

Hatchy

could you tell us more about this 'wholesaler'?

Brett_H

Anger Management wrote:

The man is now in Dubai, so not sure knowing the wholesaler would be much help... But then you never know..

When Dubai? When I needed it! Why Dubai? Because I could! :rofl: Get it Borat... If for no other reason than because you can. If the Robur is $50 extra then get that too. Or, even better... Fly a Sunbeam EM0450 over at great expense and sit it next to your wonderful machine and have coffee pundits the world over dying in the streets with exasperation. :head: :pan Seriously, having used KK's BNZ it is an unbelievably good machine but boy is it robust. you'd blow ya baggage limit with Qantas packing that alone!

Intense_Coffee

Hi Borat, I've had my Kony-E for a year or so now, and think it's great. There are some obvious logistical downsides wrt to its size in a home kitchen, and would prefer a smaller hopper (can't open one of the kichen cupboard doors fully because of it) 🙂 , and as it is obviously designed for more professional use so you do get a bit more grind retention in the chute than a domestic style, which would be less of a problem if being used continously. But all that I considered before buying. Sound-wise much much quieter than my old domestic (Solis), which now does duty grinding for syphon/filter. Grind adjustment might be a bit easier if it had a fine adjustment cog arrangement, but find I do not need to adjust that often anyway, as roast my own and its reasonably consistent. Some clumping depending on circumstances, (beans, blend, freshness, humidity etc), but as mentioned by others it very light and fluffy, so breaks up with a slight tap. We use for both straight Espresso, and milk based, and both excellent in my and my partners opinion. Cleaning out the chute a bit finicky because I retain the finger guard inside the funnel, which some people remove, but I believe it reduces the static etc, and who am I to change a well designed piece of equipment. However all the parts and the funnel stainless and pretty solid, so you don't get that feeling that repeated removal/replacement will reduce their quality or ability to do the job which would be the case with plastic housings etc. So all in all a thumbs up from me, although have not used any of the other similar priced/designed grinders to provide a comparison against. GrahamK

borat123

Thanks guys for all the info. I'll also ask for a price on the robur E (which normally would have been way over what i was prepared to spend), and check that before buying.

Lacehim

I dunno Borat, that lever needs a grinder to suit I think. A Kony is nice, but I think you should try something that pairs the two.

Brett_H

Lacehim wrote:

I dunno Borat, that lever needs a grinder to suit I think. A Kony is nice, but I think you should try something that pairs the two.

'LIKE' I'd also look at the Eleckta Nino since you're in that ballpark with its slightly smaller footprint and gorgeous aesthetics to match our blingy machine.

Koffee_Kosmo

Brett H wrote:

'LIKE' I'd also look at the Eleckta Nino since you're in that ballpark with its slightly smaller footprint and gorgeous aesthetics to match our blingy machine.

Thats not a bad idea and another choice to make KK

BLrdFX

I have had a Kony-E for a month or so and have run about 8 pounds of beans through it. At first I tried taking out the static screen to reduce clumping, which it did, but the static went wild! Duh... The electronic dosing capability went out the window as well so I put the screen back in and just purge the first shot of the day. I then started messing around with smaller hoppers. I first tried the Mazzer Mini Short hopper and it works fairly well but in a quest to reduce bean volume to try and keep the beans fresh. I then progressed to a lexan tube, but I found that the reduced weight on top of the beans sent the electronic dosing feature wacky. I am now trying different weights above the column of beans.