Naked or Not?

Muscles

Lacehim wrote:

PS. What's the new machine?

Dare I say it.... the BDB. It just makes so much sense to me to go with this machine as my step up from the EM6901. I guess I'll wait until I can find a 2nd spare PF and then pay to have it modified. Might see if I can get a wooden handle to match my checkerboard pullman tamper while I'm at it. I am still amazed (after two more coffees today) at the difference a naked PF can make. Maybe in a week or two I will have forgotten all about it but I doubt it...

shape_shifter

I unfortunately didn't win the second hand normal one on ebay I was trying for, have to try again if another one comes up, they sure are popular 🙂 It is what I was thinking AM, that a normal portafilter made for the EM6910 would be better than a reproduction made naked.

shape_shifter

That's ok AM, keep yours, I'm sure I'll turn one up somewhere 🙂

hazchem

I like to use a naked portafilter as a diagnostic tool mainly. Great for seeing real problems in your extraction. Not my favourite way to extract espresso on a daily basis though. I tend to find the shots are big, fluffy and all crema. I'm not anti crema, but I like balance and actual liquid in my cup and don't really think you get that with shots from a naked portafilter. Most of all, it means you can only make one drink at a time, that's a HUGE pain!

Koffee_Kosmo

I have never used a naked group handle I suppose I can get one made as I need the commercial lug type Seen many on E61 groups but I not even sure if they work as well on commercial group machines KK

Tango

Hey everyone (esp Muscles!). Here's one of my first efforts with the naked PF...not convinced it changes the flavour compared to a normal PF but that is more than likely my palette!

askthecoffeeguy

Nice work tango and welcome to the forum! My only complaint with a naked of is that without the spouts to collapse the crema, the crema can be quite bubbly - which can be overcome by nudging the glass to break the surface tension, or by tapping a takeaway cup on the bench And whilst they do have their place I still prefer an espresso from a normal handle But that's just me ... ACg

Muscles

Tango wrote:

Hey everyone (esp Muscles!). Here's one of my first efforts with the naked PF...not convinced it changes the flavour compared to a normal PF but that is more than likely my palette!

Good job capturing that shot Trev, it is very clear at it's full size... Looks like you took it right at the beginning of the extraction, have you taken any further in? For the first few weeks with it, I couldn't help but crouch down so I could watch the pour to look for any dosing/distribution probs and copped the odd squirter in the eye so be prepared if you decide to do the same 😉

Dry_bean

I got caught up in the naked PF hype about 12 months ago, had a spare Rancilio PF that I took round to the local engineering WS and they milled the bottom out for me, they did a great job, I used it for about a week, before I decided it was not for me, as Muscles commented, you get the odd squirter which makes a bloody mess, to me the coffee was no better or worse than the standard PF. So the naked has found its way into the junk drawer and I doubt it will ever see the light of day again. 😉

Brett_H

Dry bean. wrote:

I got caught up in the naked PF hype about 12 months ago, had a spare Rancilio PF that I took round to the local engineering WS and they milled the bottom out for me, they did a great job, I used it for about a week, before I decided it was not for me, as Muscles commented, you get the odd squirter which makes a bloody mess, to me the coffee was no better or worse than the standard PF. So the naked has found its way into the junk drawer and I doubt it will ever see the light of day again. 😉

Does it fit an e61? I bet you could recoup some of your losses by listing it in the FS area or if you are feeling generous, list it in the What's Mine is Yours section. I for one love being nak.... never mind!

Koffee_Kosmo

Today I purchased a genuine Bezzera Naked group handle / portafilter from sponsor Barazi I haven't used it yet as I was to excited, and wanted to share ;D They come for commercial type (as my machine is) and for E61 type group heads Photos attached KK

shape_shifter

Oo la la, I love the huge box it comes in 🙂

Brett_H

Looks great KK! Will it fit your prospective lever purchase?

Koffee_Kosmo

Brett H wrote:

Looks great KK! Will it fit your prospective lever purchase?

No as it has a different profile The Strega has an extra ridge so it can fit deeper into the lever head Photo is of the Strega PF KK

Koffee_Kosmo

So I gave the nakid PF a go two times It just confirmed that I am doing everything right KK

Dry_bean

Brett H wrote:

Does it fit an e61? I bet you could recoup some of your losses by listing it in the FS area or if you are feeling generous, list it in the What's Mine is Yours section. I for one love being nak.... never mind!

Fits the Bezzera just fine, thought about selling it Brett, sadly I'm a bit of a bower bird, once I own something I need a pretty good reason to sell it, not using it is not a good enough reason. :🙂

Brett_H

Dry bean. wrote:

Fits the Bezzera just fine, thought about selling it Brett, sadly I'm a bit of a bower bird, once I own something I need a pretty good reason to sell it, not using it is not a good enough reason. :🙂

I can relate to that. I have a Rocky on my bench that wouldn't have seen 5kg in the 18 months I've owned it. It was a compulsive purchase from Merlos in the Valley for decaf. I mostly have just redialed the big grinder for decaf but I just can't be bothered moving the Rocky on. They really are worth more than their asking price IMHO. What a tank! Now back OT: KK, I love the naked for the look of the shot and the huge Crema as opposed to a diagnostic tool. See how you go living with it; but if you are like me and the aesthetics of the shot revealed is seamingly great theatre, you wont want to retire it. Conversely DB, I have on occasion gone back to the spouts for a change. Nice to have both options!

Koffee_Kosmo

Have camera - check Have Nakid PF - check Below is photo shot of a pour using my new Bezzera PF Only use the Nakid PF with a single basket for when one person wants a coffee KK

madpierre

What did the nekkid set you back, KK. That's a fancy bit of gear, and a lovely pour.

Koffee_Kosmo

madpierre wrote:

What did the nekkid set you back, KK. That's a fancy bit of gear, and a lovely pour.

Its a genuine Bezzera one from Italy Cant remember if it was $89 or $99 because Chris let me take it home to see if it was OK for the Group head I went back to pay for it a couple of days later and then also walked out with a new steam arm as well KK

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