Well I've had this Espro Toroid jug a few days now and I've been struggling with it. I suppose it doesn't help that I have a new (second hand) machine, too. The technique is not the same as the standard type jug, I've learned. I have done lots of looking up to figure out how to get this thing working properly. So I have had to throw what I knew out, to some extent, and do some things differently. In the meantime, working out optimum steaming techniques for the Silvia. I think I'm *finally* heading in the right direction now, phew! I guess I'm not going to use it as a gravy jug after all. Not for now anyway. I feel like I'm getting a balance of jug technique and Silvia technique and general steaming technique. The KK technique description was helpful too although you aren't supposed to whirlpool these apparently but get the toroid running. Having owned it now, would I have picked it had I known what I know now? Naaahhh, I'd have gone for a more standard design of jug I think. I feel like the shape of it restricts me somewhat in what I can do, and that I've lost some control. Also the narrow top restricts movement of the jug while steaming and my view into it and of what's happening in there. Ask me again in three months when I get it all sorted out better, am more used to it, and have more control over the different elements of steaming.
