Breville BES900 Dual Boiler for $1000 ? Anyone want to combine efforts?

bes900fan

Hey guys,

My budget doesn't stretch to the $1,250 mark which is the cheapest I have seen the BDB advertised in Melbourne for. The problem is after reading all of the comments for and against on various forums, I think its a great machine, and SERIOUSLY want to get my hands on one! Is anyone in the market for one in the near future? If there are 5 - 10 of us that all are ready to buy, I want to have a shot at seeing which store would be willing to do a better than average price if we all buy from them at once... I would realistically hope for $1,000 -> $1,100 in the sales immediately after Christmas in Melbourne. Who is in?

RichardM

Realistically, the lowest any store will go to is "cost". That's a debated amount to start with, but it just depends on how much people want to make on the particular day (remember there are incentives for people to make sales even if they sell at "cost"). Buying multiple machines probably won't help more than guarantee you the deal you can probably get anyway. If you just walk into a place, find it in stock, and confidently say "I'll pay xxxx for this machine right now". No funny business, you'll be surprised sometimes. Around Christmas, unless it's a "sale" then you're unlikely to get a great deal. Waiting until the last few days of January, you might find a struggling sales person trying to meet a target & prepared to sell very close to cost or at a "loss" (don't feel guilty - cost isn't actually cost).

Rider

Melbspresso wrote:

Hey guys, My budget doesn't stretch to the $1,250 mark which is the cheapest I have seen the BDB advertised in Melbourne for. The problem is after reading all of the comments for and against on various forums, I think its a great machine, and SERIOUSLY want to get my hands on one!

Okay Stretch your budget. You seriously want to get your hands on one. I know this as you have stated that fact. That is how much they cost... Sorry Melbspresso, it is what it is...and at the price it seems like a deal, barring user feedback over time. If we all try and constantly screw everything down, no one gets anything..... we all have to live. I bought a VBM Domobar Super from site sponsor Coffeeparts about a year ago. On his website at $2880. Emailed to ask if in stock. He emailed back, yes, I have one, for cash, $2800. I said done, 2 days later picked it up. He offered the lower price, I'm happy, he's happy, we all walk away happy... We all get by on being gentlemanly rather than only thinking about ourselves. Pedro has to make a living as well... Rider

Caffeinated

Wholesale price is just under $1200. Be realistic guys. We all have to live, eat and pay for music lessons.

Brett_H

Caffeinated wrote:

Wholesale price is just under $1200. Be realistic guys. We all have to live, eat and pay for music lessons.

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beanflying

Any potential savings off the price you can get any of the majors down too will be soaked up in fuel and or freight dispersing these. The reality is there was one ~~freak deal~~ ERROR and the current bottom line price is what it is. Even with kick backs and rebates to the big guys no one is going to sell below store buy pricing. I have been doing a similar thing with a new ultra portable notebook price watching and it has seen the price drop from $1500 to $1400 since release. Sure I will try and haggle HN a little more and I do know a guy who works there but margins are skinny in retail and all the workers like to eat at the end of the day. 🙂 Margins on white goods and electronics (5-30% before rebates) are not the same as clothing for example (60-85%) so haggling still won't get you much unfortunately.

mycuppa

I certainly agree with you guys and it's refreshing to come across people who understand that offering products and services for sale requires cost + overheads +. The retail landscape in AU is facing many challenges. Some traditional retailers are failing, others are struggling and for every article written about buyers not spending or opening their wallets, there's a convenient counter article that bangs on about how "service" standards have deteriorated beyond acceptable (or expected) levels. I wonder why. Buyers who think they are very smart and savvy ( to the point of being smug ), spending countless hours researching on the internet the lowest price and then believing they can outdo the last guy and lob a ridiculous price they think is what they "deserve" to have as the sale price. Yes, they are buyers with a bit of knowledge but absolutely zero understanding of business operational costs naming their price, most having never run their own business and therefore lacking the insight and respect sellers rightly deserve. Barely a day passes where I don't receive the hustle........"I will buy X if you give it to me for Y". It's hard to be polite when responding back to them......sometimes I even wonder if it's actually worth responding due to the ludicrous nature of the message. Either way, quite a bit of time is wasted on "hustlers" - all part of the territory - they have been around since the dawn of sales. Recently, instead of being insulted, upset and looking like I want to kill someone, I've resorted to equally comical taunts back to them......."Sure, just for you, because you are so clever having worked out the absolute cheapest price on coffee anywhere in the world, we will do a special price of $100 per kilo delivered - hurry, get in quick before this offer ends"........

RichardM

mycuppa wrote:

I certainly agree with you guys and it's refreshing to come across people who understand that offering products and services for sale requires cost + overheads +. The retail landscape in AU is facing many challenges. Some traditional retailers are failing, others are struggling and for every article written about buyers not spending or opening their wallets, there's a convenient counter article that bangs on about how "service" standards have deteriorated beyond acceptable (or expected) levels. I wonder why. Buyers who think they are very smart and savvy ( to the point of being smug ), spending countless hours researching on the internet the lowest price and then believing they can outdo the last guy and lob a ridiculous price they think is what they "deserve" to have as the sale price. Yes, they are buyers with a bit of knowledge but absolutely zero understanding of business operational costs naming their price, most having never run their own business and therefore lacking the insight and respect sellers rightly deserve. Barely a day passes where I don't receive the hustle........"I will buy X if you give it to me for Y". It's hard to be polite when responding back to them......sometimes I even wonder if it's actually worth responding due to the ludicrous nature of the message. Either way, quite a bit of time is wasted on "hustlers" - all part of the territory - they have been around since the dawn of sales. Recently, instead of being insulted, upset and looking like I want to kill someone, I've resorted to equally comical taunts back to them......."Sure, just for you, because you are so clever having worked out the absolute cheapest price on coffee anywhere in the world, we will do a special price of $100 per kilo delivered - hurry, get in quick before this offer ends"........

I have a two fold way of looking at it. Example: I recently purchased a piece of furniture from a local store. The sales people were friendly, helpful, and the price was reasonable. I didn't try and haggle. That kind of store deserved to be in business. When I walk into a major retailer (Myer etc) I find it REALLY hard to have any respect. After I spend the first ten minutes trying to find someone who will make eye contact with me, I don't really have a care for anything other than price, to be honest. When "Retailers associations" start trying to pull things such as telling the government to pay their payments out in gift cards directly to the big stores, I just don't care about their bottom line all that much.

Muscles

Like RM, I also have a two fold way of looking at it... I have no problem hitting the majors up for a discount on a big ticket item- I have worked in sales of big ticket items and 9/10 people will ask for a better price. If you don't ask you don't receive. We are told everyday on TV about the doom and gloom of the economic climate and to demand better deals, to utilize interest free and not to spend unless it's at a sale.... people are so accustomed to that now and I blame Gerry Harvey for it all. I also have no problem spending large somes on things I don't need and I do not haggle on those - ie specialty coffee, pullman tampers etc. I guess i go easy on the Artisans, maybe I respect them more, maybe I know I can't haggle, maybe it's both.... At the end of the day I think it comes down to "perceived value"