Breville's new dual boiler machine BES900

mcknightp

Koffee Kosmo wrote:

On a side note I was watching Ellen - an American talk show She was giving the Breville BES900 away - one each to all audience members ;D KK

Wrong. She was giving away our recently released BDC600XL, a drip filter coffee machine with an grinder on board, with carafe & single serve feature. Cheers, Phil

Koffee_Kosmo

mcknightp wrote:

Wrong. She was giving away our recently released BDC600XL, a drip filter coffee machine with an grinder on board, with carafe & single serve feature. Cheers, Phil

The Episode aired yesterday or day before, as part of the 2011 - 12 days of Christmas giveaways Ellen also pulled a shot with the machine Phil - I can definitely say that it was not a drip filter machine However it may have been the BES830XL ( So I apologise if I am wrong) as they look almost the same You may have been watching or know of a different episode The items may have been given away by a retail chain & not direct from Breville KK

hiphipharar

Koffee Kosmo wrote:

Phil - I can definitely say that it was not a drip filter machine However it may have been the BES830XL ( So I apologise if I am wrong) as they look almost the same You may have been watching or know of a different episode The items may have been given away by a retail chain & not direct from Breville

If I read this page correctly, she gave away a Breville BES830XL and a Drip machine http://ellen.warnerbros.com/12daysofgiveaways/day11.php ...and for the record, I don't watch the show. Don't see much fun in a 1000 people wetting their pants over freebies. Is that the purpose of the show? Bah, humbug! :mad:

Brett_H

Wow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKOpzWrF4Qc That Breville dripper for a coffee purist just kills the idea of the office superauto. Looks awesome... the presenter does a good job but when when she says 'u-bru' I am transported back to my Uni days and an Christchurch ex-pat who refused to neutralise his accent despite our elecution/phonetics training.

Koffee_Kosmo

hiphipharrar wrote:

If I read this page correctly, she gave away a Breville BES830XL and a Drip machine http://ellen.warnerbros.com/12daysofgiveaways/day11.php ...and for the record, I don't watch the show. Don't see much fun in a 1000 people wetting their pants over freebies. Is that the purpose of the show? Bah, humbug! :mad:

Ahh well there you go I dont watch the program - my wife & girls do :tearhair: In my defense they only show a few seconds and move on to the next item They all look the same The BES 900 should look a little more sporty to tell the difference KK

GaryatGala

mcknightp wrote:

Wrong. She was giving away our recently released BDC600XL, a drip filter coffee machine with an grinder on board, with carafe & single serve feature. Cheers, Phil

If i was a audience member and drink drip filter coffee with instant as par for the course of american culture, I'd be happier with that than the BES900. The BES 900 is certainly designed for the well informed (super engaged) minority group such as ourselves. BTW, while christmas shopping, i managed to find a BES900 finally, at a store here in WA. Price? RRP$1559.00. Was nice to see it at long last anyway. Gary at G

ajst2duk

shape_shifter wrote:

It's definitely not a red herring. I left mine as is for a little bit to see what was happening, after adjustment there is such a difference in the cup, and probably the other changes I've made. If you want to see the 'wrong' way to adjust your OPV you can check out my website 😃

Well the Christmas break was just what I needed - OPV adjusted thanks to all the good resource on this forum - we are consistantly (even before OPV adjust) getting cracker shots on this machine. Still very happy with it and if we won lotto tomorrow I wouldn't have it on my list of things to change. Just now need a naked portafilter and we will be all done for 2012 🙂 - AJ

Muscles

AJ, have you ordered a naked PF already??

ajst2duk

Muscles wrote:

AJ, have you ordered a naked PF already??

Nah - have I been out of the loop ?? did I miss the first shipment?

Muscles

Yeah, first lot have landed... PM pmcknight (from Breville) on here and see if they have any left - good luck :coffee2:

Brett_H

Bloody hell... That looks very impressive. I commend small retailers who had a go competing with the Big Boxes and I think that had Breville helped these guys out a little more the pay-off would have been a world beating MkII... Bit perhaps that unit is already sitting on SS' bench. Having said all that im sure support in some form was forthcoming from Breville but it obviously wasnt enough. Mostly however I'd dearly love to put one of these on the bench next to my DB or a serious HX and have a serious play. Not now obviously... We're like having a baby...

mcknightp

Brett H wrote:

Bloody hell... That looks very impressive. I commend small retailers who had a go competing with the Big Boxes and I think that had Breville helped these guys out a little more the pay-off would have been a world beating MkII... Bit perhaps that unit is already sitting on SS' bench. Having said all that im sure support in some form was forthcoming from Breville but it obviously wasnt enough. Mostly however I'd dearly love to put one of these on the bench next to my DB or a serious HX and have a serious play. Not now obviously... We're like having a baby...

You really just have to laugh when you read something like this. How would you even know what support Breville did or did not supply to the non "Big Box" stockists?? As usual, sweeping statements with no actual knowledge! I can tell you one fact, not one non Big Box stockist provided any feedback that did or would have, changed the final package in any shape, form or function. Cheers, Phil

Dry_bean

mcknightp wrote:

You really just have to laugh when you read something like this. How would you even know what support Breville did or did not supply to the non "Big Box" stockists?? As usual, sweeping statements with no actual knowledge! I can tell you one fact, not one non Big Box stockist provided any feedback that did or would have, changed the final package in any shape, form or function. Cheers, Phil

Think its all academic now Phil, the die has been cast and there's no going back. From the reports I've read the machine has been very well received and owners have been for the most part delighted with them. :thumb:

littleroundman

Speaking of stockists, I received a promo from Kitchen Warehouse listing the BES900 as a new product. http://www.kitchenwaredirect.com.au/New-Items/Breville-Dual-Boiler-Espresso-Maker at Price: $1,489.95 (Incl. GST) Unfortunately, in true Australian retailer fashion, it's shown as "out of stock" on the website.

Dry_bean

Retailers must have run out of the original batch, regardless, they are advertised at much less than $1489 in a number of places if you are prepared to wait for a few weeks, see here $1233 http://www.billyguyatts.com.au/breville-the-dual-boiler-bes900.html?utm_source=myshopping&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Small+Kitchen+Appliances&utm_term=Breville+The+Dual+Boiler+BES900+due+late+February+

Dinsdale

Anger Management wrote:

A sprooker, or Street Barker as they are called in London...

I think he means a "SPRUIKER" 🙂

Dry_bean

Dinsdale wrote:

I think he means a "SPRUIKER" 🙂

I think your right, have to make allowances for AM, he does things his own way, and that includes spelling. 😉

Brett_H

mcknightp wrote:

You really just have to laugh when you read something like this. How would you even know what support Breville did or did not supply to the non "Big Box" stockists?? As usual, sweeping statements with no actual knowledge! I can tell you one fact, not one non Big Box stockist provided any feedback that did or would have, changed the final package in any shape, form or function. Cheers, Phil

Fair comment. I don't know what support was given to the small retailers. FWIW The Coffee Guy still lists the machines on his website for those that want to support a great guy and a local Brisbane retailer. The 30minute training course would also be a god send for those moving from Nespresso and Super-Auto machines: http://www.coffeeguy.com.au/onlineshop/coffee-brewing-equipment/breville-bes-900

Dinsdale

Greetings, I'm new to serious espresso machines, www.bestcafes.com.au, and this thread, but as I have a new BES900 I figured this would be the place to ask my questions. Bring things back on-topic, so-to-speak :stir. These questions have probably already been covered, so if that's the case please point in the right direction - there's a lot of stuff to trawl through in the hope of serendipity.. As stated, I have a BES900, but I know little about producing good coffee. I also bought a BCG800 at the same time - the budget is in shreds 😢. I would like to lob a few questions in the general direction of some more knowledgeable folk if I may. I did open a thread with some questions about cleaning my machine, but I have some more general enquiries. I'm making milk drinks - flat white, cappuccino and trying my hand at latte. A simple one to begin with: Why does everyone want to remove the plastic disc in the bottom of the PF? I've tried prying it out but it won't budge without doing some damage, besides I don't know why I'm trying to pry it out. Unfortunately I'm having to use up nearly a Kg of pre-ground coffee before the "Ministry of Finance" will approve funds for real coffee. When I'm brewing the espresso I fill the 2 cup dual walled filter with as much coffee as I can and still get the PF to attach to the group head. I tamp it down very firmly indeed. Using the default settings in the machine it takes 6secs for the coffee to begin to flow, and the show's all over in 20secs. Am I correct in the belief that the machine delivers a set volume of water, or is it just a timer. The coffee's as good as one could expect given what I have to work with, but given that, it's better than it's ever tasted before. I read that the extraction time should be much longer than 20secs; is that correct? If I use the handbook's instructions for setting the shot volume, I am in fact altering the volume of coffee produced, is that right? And the only way to know how much coffee I'm producing is to collect it in a measuring cup? I'm half of a mind to leave it until I get some real coffee, but there is also the challenge of making something palatable out what I have. Who would have guessed that there are so many variables in a good cup of coffee. This is the beginning of an adventure which will no doubt endure for a long time 🙂. Tia Dins

Dinsdale

Ok, thanx. So, I received approval for some beans and have had some fun. This where I am so far. I've left all of the defaults in place except that I've increased the pre-infusion time to 8secs now - the pre-infusion ends just as the 1st drops of coffee emerge. With the BCG800 I started with the finest grind and have made it coarser, 1 click at a time just to try it and see what happens. I've been using the fullest doses I can in the standard dual wall 2 cup basket. Well, this is what happens: Firstly, every 2 cup shot (with 1 exception, I'll mention later) takes 21secs (inc the 8sec pre-infusion). I'm assuming that a smaller dose will take less time. The 1 exception was a try with the single wall basket, which, with all other factors remaining unchanged, took just 17secs. So, how do I achieve a 30+sec brew time? I do tamp quite firmly, but I believe I'm quite consistent. I read that the extraction time should be much longer than 20secs; is that correct? If I use the handbook's instructions for setting the shot volume, I am in fact altering the volume of coffee produced, is that right? And the only way to know how much coffee I'm producing is to collect it in a measuring cup? And the default 2 cup volume is 60ml I think. The coffee is quite palatable, but I know it'll get better.

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