Thanks Lacehim :thumb: The operational difference is massive with the anti-vac and the temp strips. Now I just turn it on and wait for the temp strip to indicate it's time for a shot, no more bleed, wait, bleed, pour... I still need to build a correlation of water temp coming out the group to the temp displayed on the LCD strips, then I can match the temp to and compare with the BDB. I realize it won't be absolutely accurate but if I also use the same method on the BDB I should get a fair comparison.