Well this thread is old, aint it? Since the last post, I did the Cascade tour. WORTH EVERY CENT. It was amazing. They even had a stout ice cream which was wonderful. An aside from this, while in Tasmania, I discovered "Two Meter Tall Company" Dark Apple Ale. I liked it so much I went to their farm, ate some of their cow, and drank plenty of their ales. It's taken me until today to get some locally after much nagging of a local bottle-shop. http://2mt.com.au/brew_products.html The people can be contacted and will ship anywhere in Australia (I think it works out at around $100 a carton inc shipping, but worth it). So for the Dark Apple Ale - it is amazing. It's thick on the palate, and dark. It has a very strong taste of apple, but not in a sweet way - it's more like the little caramelised bits you get when you fry off apple and sugar. Combine that with fresh hops, two different kinds of yeast, and you have a beautiful refreshing drink. Om nom nom.