Londinium I Lever Espresso Machine

SniffCoffee

I'm actually a fan of fixed steam wands - both the Lusso and Cremina are fixed and I reckon it removes one variable. Reiss, just another couple of cents opinion: Offer lots of options, and charge for them - let customers customise their machine eg: the steam wand on the other side naked PFs tamper wood / base varations Laser etching - you mention in your blog that you've got the capacity to etch, why not let customers add their own things. glass sides Sniff

Paolo5

btw, i know there will be plenty of people sitting there thinking, boy i hope you're not afraid of heights son because you've set yourself up for an awfully big fall if it doesn't go to plan.

Yeah....I have read some of the comments on HB.

we'll make mistakes & we'll get things wrong, but we won't just shrug our shoulders and say they're all like that, or we have never had any complaints before about it. we'll sodding well fix/replace & get it on a courier to you as fast as we can because for the first time ever we will have the ability to do so.

This is reassuring...really reassuring. Orphan Espresso made updates to the Pharos available cheaply and sent another part freight-free to me when it was back in stock. Good to deal with Doug and Barb. This backup service DOES happen in the marketplace but it is a rare thing. It's a good feeling on the consumer's side when it does.

lespresso

sniff completely agree i would only add that my current focus is to get to the starting line with a simple solid offering that pleases most people out of the box we can add the flashing lights in time as/when/if people scream for them for example, i think we've just been told that we have the steam wand & water port the wrong way around i think we need to switch it if possible

Paolo5

I'm actually a fan of fixed steam wands - both the Lusso and Cremina are fixed and I reckon it removes one variable. Reiss, just another couple of cents opinion: Offer lots of options, and charge for them - let customers customise their machine eg: the steam wand on the other side naked PFs tamper wood / base varations Laser etching - you mention in your blog that you've got the capacity to etch, why not let customers add their own things. glass sides Sniff

A great idea! (but understand your priorities, Reiss)

Hatchy

I don't have an issue where the steam wand is. I'm sure most people without restrictive kitchen configurations would agree. I do like it coming straight out at a right angle and then straight down. Being able to rest the jug on the drip tray whilst steaming is also good. I think the water port should be a useable.I have the BDB and it's useable, but why have the knob for it on the left and the port on the right? That is silly. Also why not have a water port that is also on a stem and knuckle and hence more functional for general use? (i'm no engineer, but surely it would be possible, leaks would be what might hold it back). It's good you're allowing feedback Reiss

lespresso

um, i think I've misled you if we switch wand & water port the controls will also switch sides - does that solve your concern? its joysticks all the way, both sides I'm afraid - id never go back to screw screw screw open, screw screw screw, closed they're progressive & they can be locked wide open at any angle - how cool is that? does anyone know about a wand shape that does a tight 'S' (lying on its back of course) so it comes down from the machine, then a very tight turn so it is running close to vertical on the up, and then bent back down at the top so it comes down more or less vertical too? had heard some people say this worked, but its often diff to sep the fact from the folklore in these areas

Beanz

Hi Reiss Welcome aboard, great to see you here and seeing the information flowing both ways

lespresso wrote:

looking at about 550mm(d) x 320(w) x 320 (h) reiss.

Great package

Kelsey wrote:

It's odd: I'm right handed but prefer the steam on the left and use my left to hold the jug. RHS steam wands look wrong to me!

lespresso wrote:

while we're at - what do you (everyone here) think the ultimate shape/curve of the steam wand should be?

I like the shape of the steam wand on the Giotto, it also swivels so it can accomodate different operators preferences for positioning, it is also on the left. Plenty of images on line but Sweet Marias site shows it clearly http://www.sweetmarias.com/espresso_giotto/giotto_rocket_details.php

lespresso

thanks for the link/pic.

Kelsey

Dark photo, but you can see the angle of my steam wand's dangle: [attach=1] It's pretty much bang on - can be swivelled completely out of the way, can sit directly over the drip tray and a jug can sit on the tray if you're feeling lazy. I like the curve, the amount of freedom in the balljoint and the rubber finger guard - though I've wondered if the ridged plastic style wouldn't be easier.

lespresso

thanks for posting.

Kelsey

No, thank YOU! I think I speak for the entire forum when I say that we're thrilled to have you here!

lespresso

we don't get that everywhere we go >😃

Brett_H

lespresso wrote:

we don't get that everywhere we go >😃

Well here we'll 'throw another shrimp on the Barbie for you'! The Bezzera's steam wand is good but as a bit of a clutz (just ask KK) I'd be always burning my hand an the BZ's group reaching for the brew switch or the water. The Diadema is really usable and ticks all the boxes. I can even steam one handed with the jug sitting on the drip tray! http://www.cosmorex.com.au/equipment/for-the-home/bfc-diadema-dual-boiler-pid-controlled-junior-extra

SniffCoffee

lespresso wrote:

sniff completely agree i would only add that my current focus is to get to the starting line with a simple solid offering that pleases most people out of the box we can add the flashing lights in time as/when/if people scream for them for example, i think we've just been told that we have the steam wand & water port the wrong way around i think we need to switch it if possible

Reiss It's great to see you are posting here so regularly and taking on board the suggestions. If you switch the steam wand to the LHS then I'm sold! Here's yet another suggestion - include a tamper in the base price (I've got one of your tampers for my Cremina) - and you reduce another variable - to avoid newer users complaining that they can't get a decent shot...? Final suggestion: DON'T RUSH!!!! Take a leaf from the HG One team, get it right to your satisfaction and then take orders. We've all been waiting long enough for a reasonable compact - temperature stable - double shot volume with single pull - quick warming - 58mm PF - Lever!!! that we can all wait a few months longer. Sniff

conikal

SniffCoffee wrote:

We've all been waiting long enough for a reasonable compact - temperature stable - double shot volume with single pull - quick warming - 58mm PF - Lever!!! that we can all wait a few months longer.

no need to wait any longer sniff...you can buy my Gaggia Achile !! 😃 😃

Brett_H

conikal wrote:

no need to wait any longer sniff...you can buy my Gaggia Achile !! 😃 😃

I reckon you need to post lots of pictures of that for people like me who'd LOVE to see them. :thumb:

Lacehim

Agree with the rushing bit. Make sure it gets a good test to iron out any wrinkles. 🙂 We can wait a little bit longer if needed. Better to iron them out over there, than half way around the world. Does the steam side really bug folk that much !!! I admit I didn't like my silvia style machine on the right side, but that was mainly because of the turning of the knob, which was difficult and awkward for a right handed person, but these flick switchs will be much easier to turn on and off. I'm easier either way. I suppose I won't have to retrain my brain if it's steam on left, HW on right. Same as the lusso. 🙂 Can't wait to see piccies either!

lespresso

Email from the owner of Fracino at 05:48 on a Sunday morning - 'Agreed we always have steam on the right water left only 2 in a 1000 want it the other way. If they do its a special pipe no big deal. Adrian' Im very reluctant to overturn that guidance, given that Fracino have been involved with espresso machines since 1958 I hope that doesn't upset too many people, but i think we will leave things as they are, with the option to switch if its an issue It might be down to the Italians & Brits driving on opp sides of the road 😉

Kelsey

I was thinking about why it is last night and came to the conclusion that: - Easier to do the initial fiddly water purge while holding a jug - Prefer to have my right hand do switch duties - Prefer to have my right hand test temperature - I'm usually drinking my single espresso while texturing the milk for my wife's latte! No biggie, but that's my reasoning!

conikal

lespresso wrote:

Email from the owner of Fracino at 05:48 on a Sunday morning - 😉

??? Someone should tell him to try Decaf !! :coffee2: 😃

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