Londinium I Lever Espresso Machine

Koffee_Kosmo

Lwowiak wrote:

I am a little rusty in this area, as I have not been directly involved in $1000+ purchases, leaving it to a broker. Is the import duty calculated on the price of the machine, or the combined price of machine and freight? I gather GST is then calculated on top of all of this. Anyone care to confirm? Thanks in advance.

GST calculation for imports, is a combined price of item and freight

Lacehim

lespresso wrote:

um, bosco only use a single spring in the group 🙂 and i expect the quickmill achille but i am awaiting an answer on that

I've never seen a bosco group in real life, or seen inside one (apart from a photo on your blog). I think I assumed that they were a twin spring, but reading back in your blog I see this is something you were developing for the L1. All fixed up in my brain now. Thanks! I would love to see the L1 go up against the Quick Mill. They seem to be the closest of competitors at the moment. Have you sold any bound for Australia yet Reiss?

conikal

Bean Flying wrote:

.......add $100-180 for a broker.

Anybody know when or how a "broker" (money leech!) gets involved in international packages. ?? I have had many "private" packages imported with varing contents and value ( up to several $k's ) and the only time a broker ( freight agent and customs etc)) got involved was for a box of low value , used , personal items ! Every other shipment has been delivered to the door ( DHL, Auspost etc) with no extra costs or questions. I can understand how commercial imports cannot avoid the freight handlers & customs paper maze, but personal shipments seem to take a different path ? An yes....i have had a espresso m/c shipped from Europe to my door with no extra costs other than the $90 freight . !

Paolo5

I have had a couple of machines delivered to my door also with no broker involved. Both were from USA.

beanflying

But to not consider the possibility of them being added would be foolish if your making a call partly based on costs. In more recent years the system has been getting tighter rather than more relaxed. Not to say you will need a Broker as DHL for example will help you out on that front but the possibility exists. Re Bench heights couple of things for all lever spring lever machines. The Levers are potentially dangerous to faces on the upswing for the unwary in particular with no puck in :doh: I have a crack in a Z9 casting from it's former owner to prove how much force is involved. Also for good and easy motion in particular for repetitive use (commercial) a reach up is far less strain. At home I have a typical 850-900mm bench with the Fioranzato while my 3 grp sits on one at 1050mm (from memory) even this is still to short for me with a full sized commercial on it but a couple of my Baristas have a good stretch 🙂

Kelsey

Don't suppose you'll be needing a hand migrating to Joomla, Reiss? 😉

Koffee_Kosmo

Bean Flying wrote:

But to not consider the possibility of them being added would be foolish if your making a call partly based on costs. In more recent years the system has been getting tighter rather than more relaxed. Not to say you will need a Broker as DHL for example will help you out on that front but the possibility exists. Re Bench heights couple of things for all lever spring lever machines. The Levers are potentially dangerous to faces on the upswing for the unwary in particular with no puck in :doh: I have a crack in a Z9 casting from it's former owner to prove how much force is involved. Also for good and easy motion in particular for repetitive use (commercial) a reach up is far less strain. At home I have a typical 850-900mm bench with the Fioranzato while my 3 grp sits on one at 1050mm (from memory) even this is still to short for me with a full sized commercial on it but a couple of my Baristas have a good stretch 🙂

Item one Completely agree and DHL is probably the best there is Item two re bench heights Completely agree and I have in the past warned about the practice of cooling flushes as a dangerous practice As to heights I quickly learned that a longer pull handle was required so designed one of the length required for effortless operation However it does require an open area as overhead cupboards can restrict the extra height of he handle Item three :tearhair: :head: say no more Lespresso Kelsey did my Joomla site

Kelsey

Koffee Kosmo wrote:

Lespresso Kelsey did my Joomla site

But note that it wasn't a fully custom job, which is what I do a lot more of. We were migrating from an old install and the existing template wasn't compatible so a quick facelift was in order!

Lacehim

Reiss has posted some photos on his Blog of the Londinium I. This is the Luxe model with windows. And this is the stock I guess, minus windows. Inside photo, of the more expensive Luxe model. [quote]in 3 minutes the boiler is fully pressurised then pull the lever down for 7 seconds (1000, 2000,

Lacehim

Has anyone purchased one yet in Australia, or have the intention of doing so?

lespresso

in response to the concern raised a while back here about the placement of the on/off switch, we have set it so 'on' is 'up' this means when you turn it off you are pushing it down from the top so there is no reason to burn yourself on the group or the steam wand mount as you are not having to hook your finger under the toggle switch and pull it up, creating the possibility of touching the back of your hand on the hot steam wand mount

Lacehim

lespresso wrote:

in response to the concern raised a while back here about the placement of the on/off switch, we have set it so 'on' is 'up' this means when you turn it off you are pushing it down from the top so there is no reason to burn yourself on the group or the steam wand mount as you are not having to hook your finger under the toggle switch and pull it up, creating the possibility of touching the back of your hand on the hot steam wand mount

I still think it's not a good position for an on/off switch. It was one of the cons when I was deciding between the Londinium I & Quick Mill 0996 Achille.

Kelsey

I dunno L, it wouldn't put me off. But then my machine is turned on at 6am and then flicked off again at about 4pm, later if we have guests. So it'd be a once a day chance. My brew button is similarly close to the grouphead on the BZ07 tho, so I guess I'm used to it.

Kelsey

Reiss has updated the Londinium blog with some new shiny, shiny pics. Looking extremely nice. I won't steal his thunder (entirely), but here's one of the shots: [attachimg=1] Also worth noting is the 'flex test' video that he's got up there. Looks solid.

Kelsey

A couple of thoughts on this now that the build is complete. One thing I really like, surprisingly, is the little nub-like water tap. I rarely use my water tap and it'd be in an inconvenient position were I to use it a lot. I knew I wouldn't, so I went for form over function - I liked the grouping on the BZ07PID. While I like the overall functionality of the nub-water tap what I really like is that there's a massive clear space to one side of the drip tray. Perfect for washing out portafilters and bringing them back over the tray with minimal drippage. I hope someone in QLD gets one of these so I can check it out in the flesh!

Brett_H

This looks beautifully refined doesn't it! Kudos to the Londium team!

Kelsey

Very much so. I know that some if the saner heads on this forum are being shaken right now, but there's certainly romance to a nicely put together lever machine.

Caffeinated

Looks nice... Will there be storage for cups on top?

Kelsey

I don't think so - pretty sure Reiss has said that there won't be a cup warmer.

Lacehim

No. There is no cup rail to keep your cups on there, BUT you can stick cups on the top. if you want to keep them warm. The little cover at the back is for filling the tank, so you'll need access to that. It would be nice to the Quick Mill, Strega & Londinium reviewed together wouldn't it. That would be an interesting shootout.

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