How about a pool ?

UNM

Bit of a climb to get in. Arent they normally set up so the water level is roughly flush with the ground? :question: our pool is a straightforward plaster type interior, with a ton of silica flecks to make it sparkle. not our choice as it was done before we bought, but looks nice enough. I am guessing that ours is a cheaper finish, haven't a clue about longevity, but seems to be lasting ok.

derrilex

Its getting a deck built around it at coping tile level with a walkway connected to the house. No doubt about it, fully tiled is where its at. All the plaster based finishes leach into the water and mess with the chemical balance. Eventually the water will penetrate the finish and get behind it then its game over as it literally falls off the walls. Some of the rendered finishes can be really rough on the skin too. The tiling basically trippled the cost of the pool but I think its money well spent and its not that much more than having a plaster type finish in this situation. The cheapest finish is epoxy pool paint which could be DIYed for about $ 1200.

derrilex

Ok, its in. After a few puckering moments and a sinking crane ???. Video available if you PM me your email addy.

Lacehim

Nice job D, sounds like it wasn't easy though! Hopefully when you get it full of water asap for a plunge! 🙂

derrilex

Its got about 30 cm in it now at the request of the manufacturer - still bloody tempting but a bit hard to get into - and out of

Brett_H

Looks amazing!! Covered Timber decking and walkway with rails.... Hope your Timber supplier is on ya good side ???

Ol_Grumpy

Pool Party? :nudge Actually I reckon 1big bomb from my fat belly and... Ol Grumpy :in Pool Water:out... Tsunami Warning!

derrilex

Yes , yes and yes to all of the above :rofl: :rofl: Really looking forward to doing the deck. There will be elements of that mega privacy screen with the vertical timber battens too. Labour intensive but I'm not paying myself so who cares, as long as it looks schmick. There is a chance this might get a bit of display pool action too in which case I'll get a kickback from every one sold :thumb:

derrilex

A few update pics. Filter hooked up and filtering nicely. Concrete slab with post stirrups chemset in position. Posts and bracing looks like a maze and it is but bearers and joists go up tomorrow so a lot of the bracing will go. The water looks bloody amazing and it was so tempting get in but ..... the bioniser hasn't got the copper/silver levels up yet so I'll just have to wait.

Lacehim

Pool and deck build look amazing mate! Top job! :thumb:

derrilex wrote:

the bioniser hasn't got the copper/silver levels up yet so I'll just have to wait.

A whaty? Just googled it. How much did that cost? I've never heard of it until now. Are they safe etc? Do they really work? Very interested. Father in law has a small pool and and is always complaining about the salt water effecting metal items near the pool. Can you convert an existing pool?

derrilex

Bioniser kicks ass Lacehim. Yes they work and work really well. Copper and silver kill the crap in the pool. Adjust PH in the normal way with acid. Every so often chuck a bit of hydrogen peroxide in to burn oils and fats from sunscreen etc... off. You can backlush the pool onto the lawn legally. Pure fresh water. Gold. The pool shops poo poo them because they cant sell you anything. Cost of the complete electronic unit was $ 1175 but a smaller more manual type can be had for $ 875. You only need to run them for 3 hours per day as there is no chlorine to be made by a salt cell ( the reason most pools have to run for 8 hrs /day)

UNM

Lacehim wrote:

Pool and deck build look amazing mate! Top job! :thumb: A whaty? Just googled it. How much did that cost? I've never heard of it until now. Are they safe etc? Do they really work? Very interested. Father in law has a small pool and and is always complaining about the salt water effecting metal items near the pool. Can you convert an existing pool?

Likewise, I just looked at the website. My main concern is oil build up.

derrilex

The oils get burnt off by adding a oxidiser like hydrogen peroxide or by using a ozone generator and it depends on pool load ( number of people and frequency) Alternatively, bioniser do a unit called the eco oxidiser which manufacturers Hydrogen peroxide using dc current and titanium electrodes. $ 850 for the unit, but you never have to worry about buying / storing / handling dangerous hydrogen peroxide again

UNM

It's the snake oil that might cause problems. The web site positively oozes the stuff. Pseudo-scientific claptrap, all spin, no real background. I asked myself,: 'would I buy an ioniser from this man?' Anyway, I will read a bit more about pool sanitising and ionisation. Currently my 60,000 litre pool costs about $25 a month in chemicals so be interesting to compare.

conikal

derrilex wrote:

..., but you never have to worry about buying / storing / handling dangerous hydrogen peroxide again

?? Worry ?? .. hydrogen peroxide = chlorine, aka, " bleach" = one of the most common household chemicals. Sure its nasty stuff, but you need it to deal with nasty bugs around the house. And no less dangerous than the Acid you still need to adjust the Ph. Im with UNM on the $20 -$25 per month on a 90kL pool using only Chlorine ( ditched the NaCl clorinator ) PS:- If anyone knows of a pool cleaner that can actually deal with big leaves,..rather than just choke on them..i need to know. !

derrilex

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_peroxide I'm no chemist and its all gobbledygook to me but as far I can work out hydrogen peroxide is not the same chlorine or bleach. It may work in a similiar manner though. UNM - you got, comparison test coming up. Dont forget to factor in the power running costs to generate your chlorine from your salt cell ( if you use one). You need to open your mind. Just because the pool shop tells you something doesn't mean that bioniser doesn't work. Its simple chemistry using natural products. It is proven technology, using science. No spin attached. Talk to Jonty about purifying water with ionisers.

UNM

conikal wrote:

?? Worry ?? .. hydrogen peroxide = chlorine, aka, " bleach" = one of the most common household chemicals. Sure its nasty stuff, but you need it to deal with nasty bugs around the house. And no less dangerous than the Acid you still need to adjust the Ph. Im with UNM on the $20 -$25 per month on a 90kL pool using only Chlorine ( ditched the NaCl clorinator ) PS:- If anyone knows of a pool cleaner that can actually deal with big leaves,..rather than just choke on them..i need to know. !

Hydrogen peroxide is different to liquid pool chlorine (sodium hypochlorite iirc). Both nasty when concentrated. My pool cleaner works extremely well. Not sure she will travel to do yours though:rofl: My pool adviser pays me, not the other way round (I groom his dogs). No salt chlorination for me either. Liquid chlorine and baking soda that's it. I didn't say ionisers don't work, just that I intend to research more. I am not going to change from something that does work unless the alternative is clearly better. That would be truly dumb. You are starting with a new pool. Different rules. One thing though. No matter what you use for sanitation, a cover is wise for many reasons

Lacehim

UNM wrote:

One thing though. No matter what you use for sanitation, a cover is wise for many reasons

I've been trying to get my father in law to buy a pool cover for ages. He doesn't seem convinced. 🙁

derrilex

Cover for sure - not sure whats out there for round pools. Also, mine is only 10 000 lt so managing it is on a different scale to you fellas with ya resort sized pools 😃 I have a good mate that lives 5 mis away that has run a bioniser from new ( nearly 2 years now) and his pool is pretty bloody good even though he doesnt do any of the recommended tests on time and is not anal with in the slightest. His is also quartzon which messes around with things a bit. See what happens I guess :thumb:

Ronin

Ahh pools....... Just remember they are a liquid asset :rofl:

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