Report, A very rushed visit. I played a bit and check a few things. The water is clear (didn't smell off to me, C-Man better recheck that), and I steamed some milk, and detergent water. From my observations it's very much like my San Marino that I restored. I could never get the milk I wanted from that machine. It puts bubbles in to the milk ok up to 40degC, and heats the milk faster than my Achilles, but not a lot of microfoam is produced. It's left me scratching my head too. I really think that it has something to do with the final rolling of the milk. I tried my technique which is to roll it off the bottom, and to create a whirlpool and they both came out the same. I just seems to heat the milk and that's it. Max we got was 5mm of foam at the top in a latte glass. 🙁 C-man's ready to pull it apart, but I really think it's a technique thing, this machine just has a little trick to it, that we don't know yet! :laugh: It's a learning experience though, some machine make it easy, this one doesn't! I've had machines with varying boiler sizes and varying steam wands, and some are easy, some are not. I only tried C-man's 2 hole tip though, maybe a original 3 hole might be better, but we had limited time.