Upgradeitis takes another victim

C-man

Just call me Crank for short

Ol_Grumpy

Yeah that works well C-man = Crank Man Was it Quasimodo who coined the phrase, "I'ts What I Doooo!"

Ol_Grumpy

If it's any consolation whatsoever, I had exactly the same issues as you, albeit on a smaller scale with the Pharos, It was only 3-4 kilos of splutter before things settled down and all was well in the morning brew routine again...

C-man

Ol Grumpy wrote:

If it's any consolation whatsoever, I had exactly the same issues as you, albeit on a smaller scale with the Pharos, It was only 3-4 kilos of splutter before things settled down and all was well in the morning brew routine again...

that's encouraging!

Ros

My HG-One is still breaking in slowly ( I haven't ground too much on it maybe under 5kg) My main issues from the start was early blonding and thin creama, both of which have improved a lot. I have 15KG of Par Boiled Indian rice I got from a grocer which I may run through it yet. It has improved out of site from when I first got it. I have 71mm OEM Mazzer TiN coated burrs.

Weigh the dose
Add a drop of water
Grind the beans
Brush excess under the funnel into the burrs and then a couple of more rotations ensures minimal grind retention
Tap the funnel to drop any excess grounds into the tumbler
Stir the grounds with a wooden skewer
Use my Orphan Espresso funnel on the top of the portability and rest the HG one tumbler on that, drop the grounds into the portafilter
Re-stir the grounds with the OE funnel still on
Shake, tap to level the grounds
Tamp
Pull shot

adding the drop of water is essential for me as it's rather dry humidity here so if you don't add a drop of water then static will cause the grounds to stick to the funnel. The best thing about the HG1 is it's so easy to swap beans at any given shot, very minor burr adjustments are needed I've found if beans are roasted near the same level.

C-man

Thanks Ros, I have only ground about 2-3Kg at the most so far What I get is very thin sometimes red crema , micro spurts and even cyclone spinning mouse tails and not much good taste yet. This is all VERY Slowly getting better, I pulled into a local roaster and they gave me a KG of over roasted oily looking beans. I spent a couple hours the other day grinding most of them, has not helped much yet, just reduced the number of cranks per dose. It is very time consuming, seems they really need a fair few KGs or a couple boxes of par boiled rice ( did not see them at Coles) An electric motor would be helpful for the seasoning process. seems the TIN coated burrs take the most time.

sctsprin

I just upgraded from the year old regular burrs to TiN Mazzer burrs Mainly due to the effort of grinding lightly roasted beans for the L1 The new burrs took 120 revs for 16g of beans, old burrs were 30 revs for same I ran a kilo of regular rice through it and its now at 50 turns The new TiN coating makes it effortless to grind compared to the old ones Pours are quickly improving too

sctsprin

You can take the flywheel off and use a drill to speed up the grinding of atale beans or rice too I just did the rice by hand in small batches over a couple of days

C-man

they say to use not regular rice but "par boiled" rice I have not been able to find it yet. I have ground about 4kgs coffee by now, it reduced the number of cranks required, but cup results still need to improve.

sctsprin

Yeah but i couldnt find instant dried rice anywhere and it worked a treat

lukemc

C-man wrote:

they say to use not regular rice but "par boiled" rice I have not been able to find it yet. I have ground about 4kgs coffee by now, it reduced the number of cranks required, but cup results still need to improve.

I found some quick cook rice at woolies c-man

sctsprin

Is that the dried rice, or the soft stuff in a packet?

C-man

I understand coffee beans to get the oil, but how does rice help? Rice oil? or just wearing the coating off the burrs? Did you just use plain Raw hard rice?

sctsprin

Seasoning refers to removing the machining swath from the burrs, not adding oils as per a fry pan However i do clean the grinder occasionally by putting it in the sink and running a milk jug or two of boiling water through the burrs whilst turning, which gets a lot of stale oil off The grind setting changes to a coarser setting after this, until a new coating of oil builds up and i go back to the old setting Grind effort reduces markedly after the clean too, but gets harder as the oils build up again I just used regular uncooked rice on a coarser setting, which worked great They recommend instant rice as its much easier to grind than uncooked rice, not because of damage reasons Cheers James

steve82

Howdy all If you are looking for large amounts of par boiled rice for burr seasoning, search " Tastic par boiled rice 10kg" its around $20. Alternatively seek out your nearest Indian grocer they should have the same or different brands ect. Cheers

conikal

sctsprin wrote:

Seasoning refers to removing the machining swath from the burrs,

Thats one possible definition...as is "add salt and pepper to taste" ! .. ..but neither is applicable in this case. You cannot remove "machining swath" from coated parts as there is none. ( define "swath' ? ) In preparation for the coating process, the burrs will have been thoroughly surface cleaned. And no amount of rice, coffee beans, Grindz, or wishful thinking....is going to remove any of that coating.... ... if its been applied correctly !

sctsprin

This is the swath i'm referring too, which hasn't been removed before TiN coating, these are just the larger ones i could easily photograph with the iPhone, but their are smaller ones on the smaller grinding burrs too, these get removed after seasoning and even out so you get a more consistent particle distribution

sctsprin

steve82 wrote:

Howdy all If you are looking for large amounts of par boiled rice for burr seasoning, search " Tastic par boiled rice 10kg" its around $20. Alternatively seek out your nearest Indian grocer they should have the same or different brands ect. Cheers

Great thanks Steve

QM0996

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sctsprin

well theres no moving parts or bearings to bed in, it's a very simple device

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