Was talking to my son in law (living in Maryland U.S.A. a few days ago, tells me he was discussing coffee with a neighbor and his interest in espresso machines, neighbor said hang on a minute, went into garage and came out with a La Pav Stradavari in new condition, don't use it any more, it's yours if you want it, wouldn't accept a cent. Here we are spending money buying machines. :🙂