My Epiphany....

Brett_H

Risttettissimo :stir

Cuir_Beluga

Brett H wrote:

Risttettissimo :stir

That is it pretty much 😛.

kbilleter

Cuir Beluga wrote:

I actually tried that once and got a soggy mess 😛. I was putting 14gms into the 14gm basket but then treating it as a single shot so pouring 30ml/30 secs. No wonder it was a bit erm...strong :o.

That's quite a valid choice intentionally though. Actually, I was mucking around with my cheap single boiler yesterday and discovered I can get a really smooth ristretto with 17g in ~20ml out and opening the water dispenser while brewing as a poor man's pressure profiling :-D. Does affect the temperature a bit too though.

Cuir_Beluga

kbilleter wrote:

That's quite a valid choice intentionally though. Actually, I was mucking around with my cheap single boiler yesterday and discovered I can get a really smooth ristretto with 17g in ~20ml out and opening the water dispenser while brewing as a poor man's pressure profiling :-D. Does affect the temperature a bit too though.

Well, when you say it like that 😃.

askthecoffeeguy

I have a confession to make too - only just finished installing "the beast" my modded rancilio epoca in the new place, have been using my sunbeam cafe series as a 'go to' machine for a couple of months prior to that, and,.along those lines, ahem... I still have the double walled pressurized basket in place for the sunbeam - it doesn't appear to impact upon shot quality so I left it in there, despite it really being a 'beginners tool' to aid in crema production!

Brett_H

Goes to show you that a first-class pro can get a great coffee out of most things; and, the things you read on the interweb isn't always the whole truth. Now no pressure Pat but if the Epoca doesn't consistently produce better coffee I'll be forced to moth-ball all my gear in favour of a camp fire, a Billy and a couple of rocks!

Cuir_Beluga

askthe coffeeguy wrote:

I have a confession to make too - only just finished installing "the beast" my modded rancilio epoca in the new place, have been using my sunbeam cafe series as a 'go to' machine for a couple of months prior to that, and,.along those lines, ahem... I still have the double walled pressurized basket in place for the sunbeam - it doesn't appear to impact upon shot quality so I left it in there, despite it really being a 'beginners tool' to aid in crema production!

It's super easy to muddle things up, all it takes is something to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Well for me anyway 😛.

askthecoffeeguy

I consistently get great results from the rancilio and its much less sensitive to tamp and grind But the cafe series takes a much finer grind for a longer extraction time producing a completely different profile But for ease of use and great milk production (I've got a synesso tip on the end of the steam wand on the rancilio) I'll take the rancilio every time - plus it's much more forgiving over a wider range of conditions AND I've made 100 coffee in an hr using this machine - try doing that with a sunbeam!

Cuir_Beluga

100 coffees in an hour. Wowee :coffee2:.

Brett_H

I'm just doing the math on 100 in an hour and wow! You must have been flying. That must surely be the machine's limit. I know it's got a big boiler and a rotary pump but those are impressive numbers. I once did 5 coffees in an hour and I needed a little lie down. Kudos Pat!

Dry_bean

That's 1 coffee every 36 seconds.

GaryatGala

Did 160 at times an hour but thats with someone on shots and yours truly on milk. Have been called the "milkman" due to my strength on milk production.

askthecoffeeguy

OK mine included hot chocolates as well and was for a find raiser at the kid's school, which I've done a few times - it's full on and harder than working in a busy cafe! I can do it on my own but I need someone taking orders and handling the money plus you need a dedicated power supply just for the coffee machine !

Dry_bean

GaryatGala wrote:

Did 160 at times an hour but thats with someone on shots and yours truly on milk. Have been called the "milkman" due to my strength on milk production.

That's one coffee every 22.5 seconds no breaks allowed.???

GaryatGala

No breaks til lunchtime but not before restocking, clean down portafilters and group heads, grinder adjustments and tasting together with rubbish bin runs during lulls of a few minutes. The 160 cups per hour applies during the magical 8 til 9.30 am crowd/zombie peak hour. Lunch and afternoons are leisurely.