Yes Tony, compared to Sydney and Melbourne, Adelaide is still a little behind on the specialty coffee front - my personal observation, after moving here for family reasons from Sydney 6-7 yrs ago, is that they're so ingrained into the 'italian coffee" thing, with Italian being such a cultural influence in food/restaurants in Adelaide. And the problem with that (IMHO)?: 1) the "we already know best" italian attitude (ie that's not how my grandmother used to do it 70 years ago in Naples... & 2) the dark, heavily roasted thing on the second point, there is a fairly big roaster in a place called Rio Coffee in Stepney, however they're very much invested in 2) ie the dark, heavily roasted thing, to the point that I find their beans almost undrinkable - very dark, oily (and often not fresh). Their previous roaster, a guy called Tony D'angelo who has gone out on his own (somewhere near Mile End) is a great guy, although I guess he learnt his trade at Rio, so whether that means he still focusses on the dark roast-thing, I'm not sure. A PS should probably move this thread - will leave it here temporarily and shift to 'industry' in a day or so