I would have to agree with Ristretto - thanks for the welome. The main point here is that rather than being an armchair general, why don't you give the Comp a go, or the Association. You will be surprised at the number of coffee interested people who give up many hours of their time for free, to further the cause of people like Captain. In return, the last thing they need is criticism from the same. But, in truth, all the discussions here have some basis for thought, and I have noted concerns from individuals outside the Association. I, for one, do not sit in an ivory tower, and am in a position to take on suggestions immediately if they are constructive. I would welcome any comments, but first you really need to know what we do, what we aim for, what our goals are, before you can comment. And what better way to do this than from the inside - we are looking to bolster the membership category of baristas, and have them form a Baristas Guild, or Team Australia - who can develop innovative initiatives for ALL baristas. Is anyone up to the challenge? If so, my phone is always on - 0414870197.