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« Reply #75 on: 17/06/2011, 11:10 AM »
Regardless of whether people still choose to buy from specialist stores, the warranty is pretty different to the standard of return to where you bought it, or send to a service centre at your cost.
Just wondering if this is a one off, or if those with other Breville appliances have the same sort of warranty.

Doode - I didn't think anyone could demo this right now, until production units start shipping. Did you get to try one of the pre-production models while they were out?

Lacehim, I saw one at cafebiz, yes, they are big for this class of machine, bigger than I expected.
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« Reply #76 on: 17/06/2011, 11:47 AM »
Warranty support of the BDB seems to be dealt with directly by breville, including provision of pre paid courier back to them. This would make it easier to sell through the internet and box shifters, as access to a bricks and mortar store is not necessary.

Don't know about Breville specifically but regardless of product in this country sellers have statutory obligations to meet weather shop front or web based. Back to base warranty makes sense as very few of the actual sellers of the Breville are authorised service centres and indeed not qualified to work on an electrical appliance anyway. More and more techie goods seem to be going B2B for example Hardly Normal doesn't fix PC's.

Living in the bush after sales service for me on a lot of what I buy is done by phone or email regardless so net only or net/shop makes little difference. That said a hands on demo and hands on backup is a great thing if available.

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« Reply #77 on: 17/06/2011, 12:03 PM »
Hi thanks Bf, although fyi I wasn't interested in having a discussion on kettles at all - simply making the point [in relation to the new dual boiler machine] that 'there are things that are made in China' and 'there are things that are made in China' - just hoping it's the latter [or was that the former  :)]...

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« Reply #78 on: 17/06/2011, 12:33 PM »
All good  :) With more manual brewing taking place a kettle thread is not a bad thing. Toaster thread to follow  ;)

Out of interest no one had picked up a taint issue with the pre production models of the Breville which I am sure will already contain a lot of the production plastics and parts.

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« Reply #79 on: 17/06/2011, 01:36 PM »
I bought my machine from 'another supplier' lacehim. they had one too see and they made me a really nice coffee and let me try the machine too

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« Reply #80 on: 17/06/2011, 08:55 PM »
When were you able to play with the BDB, I thought he said 'over there' a while ago that they had to give it back and that they will have one to play with for tomorrow???
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« Reply #81 on: 17/06/2011, 09:39 PM »
I don't know how but he has 2 machines. I ordered it this week.

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« Reply #82 on: 17/06/2011, 09:46 PM »
Oh maybe he didn't give them back to Breville after all, pity he didn't tell everyone he still had them, I've been telling people that no one has one to try at present, oh well.
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« Reply #83 on: 18/06/2011, 10:28 AM »
I recently came into some information about the Breville Dual Boiler that has since disappeared into the internets nether regions.
Just reposting a summary here to educate, inform and possibly entertain...

Early adopters of this product clearly want to be among the first to own it.

I will keep it concise to limit any off topic discussion

The major appliance stores will not be getting stocks until after some of the specialist coffee retailers who have already signed up as resellers.

Even though production models do not seem to be shipping yet, several retailers are accepting pre orders and are offering different package deals.

I have been told that a Breville account rep confirmed the specialist resellers for this product should be getting stock at the same time.

At the time of writing, I know of one crema sponsor that is accepting pre-orders, that may of course change.
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« Reply #84 on: 18/06/2011, 11:45 AM »
Wonder if the 2.4 litre water reservoir of the Breville may prove to be its Achilles heel, even the Silvia has a 2.5 litre tank and the Bezzera Domus Galatea 4 litre ???
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« Reply #85 on: 18/06/2011, 11:55 AM »
Unless you are making long blacks or teas from it 2.4 should get you nearly 20 doubles with steamed milk. So for most homes it is only a daily fill I guess.

If you have easy access to the machine it is a very quick fill as the tank slides right out. Either that or the top fill works providing you keep looking at the sight glass  ::)

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« Reply #86 on: 18/06/2011, 01:40 PM »
BF and the fact that it swivels on it's base so easy access shouldn't be a problem for anywhere except if it is put in a place where it can't move :D
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« Reply #87 on: 18/06/2011, 03:09 PM »
I emailed and they said breville have not picked the two machines they loned them that's why they still have them. It sounds right to me not suss. I can't find anything where breville said xmas and have been told it will be ready in august.

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« Reply #88 on: 18/06/2011, 04:19 PM »
sprookers have little credibility.  [/b]

whats a sprooker. do you mean a seller. this topic is from a seller and they are for sale on there website but he says here not to buy them. i am happy with my seller and i trust them


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« Reply #89 on: 18/06/2011, 04:56 PM »
I am at best a cautious person
The posts that I have made on this machine can be counted on one hand
I wont bag or sprook a product that is not in the marketplace

Real objective reviews are generality from users, both novice & seasoned
I dont like reporters/reviewers that just copy and paste the advertised company releases as if its gospel

If the product is good it will stand the test of time
May I also just mention another product released in Nov 1957 with much fan-fair & over-exuberant advertising  that it failed
Unfortunately not what the public was expecting as the hype did not match the end result

That my friends was the Ford Edsel

Something to ponder

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« Reply #90 on: 18/06/2011, 05:17 PM »

May I also just mention another product released in Nov 1957 with much fan-fair & over-exuberant advertising  that it failed
Unfortunately not what the public was expecting as the hype did not match the end result

That my friends was the Ford Edsel

Something to ponder

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As well as the infamous Chevrolet Corvair that put Ralph Nadar's name well and truely on the map "Unsafe at any speed"
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« Reply #91 on: 18/06/2011, 05:19 PM »
ok I looked it up and I think you mean spruiker. I see you are a global moderator I think that means big boss. You seem like a very angry manager to me. Maybe I will look for a more friendly chat room.

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« Reply #92 on: 18/06/2011, 05:24 PM »
whats a sprooker. do you mean a seller. this topic is from a seller and they are for sale on there website but he says here not to buy them. i am happy with my seller and i trust them


This may well enlighten you
 http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/spruiker
as a matter of interest I'm getting the distinct smell of rattus rattus, to save you looking it up---
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_rat
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« Reply #93 on: 18/06/2011, 05:28 PM »
ok I looked it up and I think you mean spruiker. I see you are a global moderator I think that means big boss. You seem like a very angry manager to me. Maybe I will look for a more friendly chat room.

That is completely your choice coffeedoode.

Me, I find it refreshing that people can actually say what they think without getting deleted :D

There is nothing unhealthy about rational debate.
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« Reply #94 on: 18/06/2011, 05:32 PM »
ok I looked it up and I think you mean spruiker. I see you are a global moderator I think that means big boss. You seem like a very angry manager to me. Maybe I will look for a more friendly chat room.

We encourage debate on this forum, debates are just that - differences of opinions, and on this forum we prefer not to get to personal

With the anonymous nature on forums? You just never know who it is one is conversing with
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« Reply #95 on: 18/06/2011, 06:13 PM »
Hi Coffeedoode,

I've deliberately stayed out of this thread because it really isn't appropriate for Sponsors to Spruike their wares away from the sponsor area and it's a bit of a thin line sometimes  :)

But I can see you're perplexed and I thought I would try to explain myself.

E61 is  a Breville reseller, we really only range the Smart Grinder at this stage, but will be ranging the new dual boiler machine.

I've been really happy with the way Breville have supported my business and the way they have managed  the few issues with the Smart Grinder when they arose with the first units.

It is partly because of this good experience, partly because our initial research suggests the new dual boiler machine is set to be a great machine for its segment,  but primarily because many of our current customers have asked us to  that we have decided to include the new machine in our range.

Despite all these positive reasons I have expressed caution because the new machine  is untested by real users. I was trying to make the point in my earlier post that people should be excited, but cautious. The marketing and blurb on this machine has been extraordinary, not all of it attributed to Breville I might add.

There is a strong push by some businesses to become an early adopter of this machine and offers  of
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« Reply #96 on: 19/06/2011, 03:57 PM »
Personally I think we should all just wait until it actually makes it to market.  It's all talk no action at the moment because no one has actually used or seen an actual production model.  It's starting to feel like the NBN all over again! :)  (ie too much talking, not enough actual work)

Coffeedoode and shape_shifter sound like they are going to be buying one on release so maybe we could ask them to post up some info, in the form of a review here at Crema when they get their machine and hopefully keep us updated as they use it and include Pros and Cons of the machine.  Just make sure there are loads of photos guys.

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« Reply #97 on: 19/06/2011, 04:26 PM »
Lacehim, it's a definite here, we're ready to go to machine and the only other one I liked is around the $3000 mark :)

I can assure you there will be plenty of comments, opinions, photos and video.  I don't think anyone would expect anything else from me would they  ;D

It's the reason I've been quiet, there isn't any more to say until it actually happens.
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« Reply #98 on: 28/06/2011, 09:21 AM »
Guys,

just to let you know that the Dual Boiler went into production yesterday & the first few have rolled off the line. Our engineer who's there for the duration of the production pulled some coffees off unit #00001 (with Aus beans, not Chinese...) & was very happy!

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« Reply #99 on: 28/06/2011, 10:24 AM »
Guys,

just to let you know that the Dual Boiler went into production yesterday & the first few have rolled off the line. Our engineer who's there for the duration of the production pulled some coffees off unit #00001 (with Aus beans, not Chinese...) & was very happy!

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ohh, exciting - dont suppose there's any chance of seeing some pics from the production facility - not nec the production line just some shots in general!
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