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« Reply #25 on: 20/07/2011, 01:38 PM »
Partly the brand - Boema have produced some /really/ awful products, partly the age - late 80s/early90s is unfashionable and had poor QC, and partly the 3gr nature means they're often 20A instead of 15W with the possibility of getting them down to less than 11A.

Also weight - 80kg+ is a lot different to 40-65kg.

The combo of brand, weight and age means perceived difficulty selling on, while probably no-one wants a machine they can't sell in times where money is hard to come by?

Just guessing here.
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« Reply #26 on: 20/07/2011, 01:53 PM »
I wouldn't have considered owning a 3 group Bo-ema until recently.  In an odd way, they're kitch,  and I do like them much more now.

Having sold my lever recently, despite still having possession of it, I miss it already.  The Aussie brand appeals to me.  I've made some enquiries to the owner and might end up owning it.  Oh well, we'll see how it goes.

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« Reply #27 on: 20/07/2011, 01:57 PM »
Different thing buying a 3 group for the home kitchen, I suspect the SO approval factor would be below zero.

I was having a little drool over at the KVW site last night and I was wondering if the lady uses a riser block behind the counter to get to the levers  :) Rancilio Class 6 I think.


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« Reply #28 on: 20/07/2011, 04:46 PM »
Different thing buying a 3 group for the home kitchen, I suspect the SO approval factor would be below zero.

My missus let me have a 1m wide bench. Whatever coffee gear I can fit on that, I can have :) :) - Wouldn't leave much space for a grinder though.
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« Reply #29 on: 03/08/2011, 03:14 PM »
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« Reply #30 on: 03/08/2011, 04:44 PM »
And he even said on that other forum that price is very negotiable to see it go to a good home.

I am tempted, very nice looking machine.
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« Reply #31 on: 03/08/2011, 05:35 PM »
Think this thread needs more pictures  :) Couple of my larger Levers in use.

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« Reply #32 on: 03/08/2011, 06:59 PM »
Nice machines BF.  I just hope AM doesn't notice those leads lying around! ;D

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« Reply #33 on: 03/08/2011, 08:07 PM »
All better now that was just the test location and the old kitchen  ;)

Here is 2 of the smaller flavour  ;D


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« Reply #34 on: 03/08/2011, 09:12 PM »
To far south and in to small a town for decent ginger  :-[ The version of the Pavoni I have is already fully loaded with Timber including the boiler fill.

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« Reply #35 on: 19/08/2011, 09:05 PM »
I have an Izzo Pompeii Single Group Lever and it took my coffee to a whole new level. I find I can pull consistently great shots with minimal effort. I came from a Bezzera BZ35e - a pretty damn good machine in its own right, but not a patch on a commercial spring lever.

Its also easier for my wife to pull great shots on, consistently, she loves the fact its so much less messy than a pump driven machine and she is much more confident pulling shots for visitors.

I also love the quietness, combined with a Pharos hand grinder its almost a zen experience extracting coffee!

I am a total convert to the Lever.  

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« Reply #36 on: 19/08/2011, 09:25 PM »
I just gotta say: that is one of the most stunning pieces of equipment I can remember seeing, in any field.

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« Reply #37 on: 19/08/2011, 09:28 PM »
I like levers and I am a convert in a big way
I do however prefer a plumbed in model

When my tax check comes in I think that I will be getting the demo Strega from Barazi
Over on Home Barista some have modified the tank models to operate as plumbed in thus eliminating the pump
So this is a bonus and a win win scenario for me

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« Reply #38 on: 19/08/2011, 10:10 PM »
Bit more Izzo power on site that's better, Welcome along  :)

Liking the Bezzera plumbed in to KK. I think they misread the market for Lever buyers a little by not releasing the plumbed in one earlier themselves.

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« Reply #39 on: 19/08/2011, 10:33 PM »
Bit more Izzo power on site that's better, Welcome along  :)

Liking the Bezzera plumbed in to KK. I think they misread the market for Lever buyers a little by not releasing the plumbed in one earlier themselves.

I am considering the very machine I have a video of, as its was a first in the world to be tested by me I have a soft spot for it.
You just had to see the shots I was pulling
There is a factory option for a plumbed in Stega available now
If I see the insides of one I can convert it

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« Reply #40 on: 22/08/2011, 12:31 PM »
Little bit of Coffee Porn 4 sale in Tasy at present. $15k'ish. I would nearly consider swapping my Izzo for it  ;)

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« Reply #41 on: 22/08/2011, 02:15 PM »
Little bit of Coffee Porn 4 sale in Tasy at present. $15k'ish. I would nearly consider swapping my Izzo for it  ;)


I saw this also but alas, I don't have the bench space.... yeah right....

If this machine turns out to be unreliable for the new buyer, who services a Slayer???
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« Reply #42 on: 22/08/2011, 05:14 PM »
I am considering the very machine I have a video of, as its was a first in the world to be tested by me I have a soft spot for it.
You just had to see the shots I was pulling
There is a factory option for a plumbed in Stega available now
If I see the insides of one I can convert it

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KK does the factory plumbed option still use a vibe pump.  Lovely machine and I would have gone for one if it wasn't for the damn vibe.  The beauty of levers I think is their simplicity.

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« Reply #43 on: 22/08/2011, 10:31 PM »
KK does the factory plumbed option still use a vibe pump.  Lovely machine and I would have gone for one if it wasn't for the damn vibe.  The beauty of levers I think is their simplicity.

I will check and confirm with Barazi
The simple mods that I have seen on HB eliminates or bypasses the vibe pump

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« Reply #44 on: 16/10/2011, 07:01 PM »
After all the lever restorations I have been seeing
Its prompted me to revisit my search for a good quality single piston lever (preferably commercial)

I like the Bezzera BZ2006AL
However I am not sure if they are available in 240 Volt



I also like the Rancilio Z8 / Z9 one group lever if I can source one



I just like the industrial look
Anyone that can recommend a similar machine
Of course the machine must be good at coffee making as a first priority
Some machines are fantastic and outperform the pretty machines
So whats the best lever machine flying under the radar   

PM me if you find something  ;) so I get first dibs

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« Reply #45 on: 14/12/2011, 11:48 AM »
I spoke to Chris this morning about a few things including Lever machines
Because someone was asking on the different Strega models available with regards to a no pump model

So an update for the rest of the lever nuts on Crema
Current model available - and the one I have my eye on

Strega - with tank & vibration pump

Other models available by order only at this stage

Strega - Dual - Tank and Plumbed in
This model has 2 pumps
1 X Rotary pump - for mains water connection
1 X Vibration pump - for tank use

Strega - Direct Mains Model

This model has no pump at all and connects direct to the mains water line

On another topic
Chris said that he can get a Bezzera BZ2006AL as pictured above in 240 Volt or with the same internals the Ellise single lever



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« Reply #46 on: 14/12/2011, 11:59 AM »
I really like the Bezzera BZ2006AL, as much of a box as it is and I wanted curves, it keeps the hot stuff away from my hands a lot better than majority of others.
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« Reply #47 on: 14/12/2011, 01:37 PM »
Without wanting to talk down a product unseen there is a lengthy saga about a 2600 lever on Home Barista. My suspicion is it was a Friday machine but still worth a read. It wasn't in the wrapper shown below but in the squared off box but I believe they share the same internals. It was a conversation that started off elsewhere on another fourm pre decision to buy then drifted to waiting fo and then into a few post purchase issues to resolve over 6 months  ;)



Interesting to know the other variants are available by order too KK.  :)

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« Reply #48 on: 14/12/2011, 01:46 PM »
What's a 'Friday machine'?
LONDINIUM I, Compak E10.

Full disclosure: I have commercial arrangements with Bezzera (AU) and Londinium Espresso. I am not required to market them on this forum & any opinions expressed are my own.

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« Reply #49 on: 14/12/2011, 01:52 PM »
A lemon or Friday Machine. This is not a reflection of the brand by any means just a one of issue as far as I have ever read.


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