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« on: 09/04/2011, 04:26 PM »
Sources of Green Beans in smaller quantities for the home roaster.

Site Sponsors selling Green by the kg

Bean Green delivery is great and a good  range  of products.
My Cuppa delivery is great and a variety of greens (also roasted beans).
Coffee Parts small variety of greens and good delivery.
Jetblack Espresso small variety of greens and good delivery.
Barazi - Koffee Kosmo site good variety of greens and good delivery.


Crema Members with beans to sell some/all of the time

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« Reply #1 on: 09/04/2011, 06:58 PM »

I still buy through CS, have not heard of Bean Green before, prices seem fair and free delivery on orders over $25 ;D certainly worth a try, how long have they been in business and where are they located?
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« Reply #2 on: 09/04/2011, 09:10 PM »
Bean Green have been around for some time and have a solid following in Brisbane and a few other places. For various reasons I have had to pass their details onto other well know ROASTERS in Brisbane, for when they could not get supplied, up from down south - GB assisted and every one was happy?  Pleasant guys to talk to and were to come to the CS meet and Greet but the owners wife or child became ill ???

Thanks for the heads up Bliss, have placed a trial order of 5 kg, will be interested to see how the process goes, not sure how they ship, guess I'll find out in due course. :)
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« Reply #3 on: 09/04/2011, 09:58 PM »
I use the green beans from the Koffee Kosmo online shop

They are very reasonably priced for AA grade beans and at times we are selling at cost.
Green beans are packed in 1KG Mylar bags

Barazi are the distributors of the KKTO & Green Bean supplies so Brisbane home roasters can Just walk in and pick up a kilo or 2

The reason we supply green beans are supplied in 1 kg one way valve Mylar bags, is so the home roaster has a new bag to store the roasted beans

The web site caters to the green coffee bean needs of all home coffee roasters but mostly to service the current & future KKTO owners

Check the web site of available green beans often, as the list of green beans changes with availability

http://koffeekosmo.com.au/Green-Beans/View-all-products.html

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« Reply #4 on: 09/04/2011, 10:22 PM »
Sorry KK I keep forgetting that beans can be had there as well...

So where do people in other states get their beans from...

Must be any number of providers out side CS ?

In times past I got my green beans from local roasters, its as easy as asking if they sell to the public

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« Reply #5 on: 09/04/2011, 10:35 PM »
Depends on the quantities involved.  I've looked at beangreen for sometime now.  Another place if you're in NSW is Ministry grounds.  Neil always gets in top notch stuff.

I'm currently waiting on some Colombian microlot samples from another place in NSW.  A bit out of reach for the home roaster, as minimum quantities are around the 35kg mark.  Its easily split between a bunch of mates however.

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« Reply #6 on: 12/04/2011, 02:21 PM »
I use Ministry Grounds too (oh and that other place, but only when something catches my eye). Good to know you have greens Koffee Kosmo.  

You should give them a go
I test roast all beans that are offered before they go on sale

I know its a hard job, but hey someone's got to do it   ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #7 on: 12/04/2011, 07:08 PM »
A logical add on to the question "Where do you get your greens from " would be, why do you buy from a particular company and what are your priorities when choosing a supplier? and some of the answers will depend on whether you live in a capital city or country area.

My priorities are

Bean quality.

Price.

Ease of payment.

Prompt shipping.

Good communication.

So far BeanGreen have met most of my criteria, will let you know what quality is like once the shipment arrives, average price of $12.70 per kg to the front door is pretty reasonable and I certainly like the fact that they ship orders over $25 freight free. ;D
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« Reply #8 on: 14/04/2011, 12:53 PM »
I agree with those priorities, with Bean Quality and Good Communication at the top. A clincher for me is if there are Central and South American beans, particularly Nicaragua.

KK - looking forward to posting an order soon. Just got to get the pile down a bit first!

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« Reply #9 on: 15/04/2011, 10:33 PM »
Wow some good info.  Might try green bran because being up the sunny coast freight is a killer.  Do they sell in 1kg bags?  I also keep forgetting about your site kk.  Sorry.  I've tried pioneer roastary before but I can only get a hold of Kate on weekdays.  They also only stock limited types of beans.  I also kinda like the info posted online when ordering, like what to expect in the cup, best roasted too etc.  It helps me figure out what I like and what to look for.

I'm hoping to roast more but really need help with starting to blend.  I would love to buy some monsoon malaba aa.  The coffees I had at troys where lovely.

Maybe we need a crema gathering bliss. ;) maybe with pizza ;)


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« Reply #10 on: 18/04/2011, 12:11 PM »
Thanks for the heads up Bliss, have placed a trial order of 7 kg, will be interested to see how the process goes, not sure how they ship, guess I'll find out in due course. :)
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Order arrived safe and sound from Bean Green this AM, well packed in sturdy paper bags with wire closure, certainly are a good company to deal with, and as I mentioned before, delivered to my door "by Australia Post" freight free.
Will roast some this PM and report back. ;D
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« Reply #11 on: 18/04/2011, 12:18 PM »
Hi Dry bean,

Was it express or regular post?  Not to be nosey, but what where your options with paying?  CC or Paypal etc?

The only thing that concerned me with their site was the lack of an business address or contact details apart from email.  Emails not always the best form of communication when problems arise.

They have an excellent range and the free post is a big bonus for me.  Usually I have to pay about $15 for a 5kg express postbag for 5kg of beans which really bumps up the price.

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« Reply #12 on: 18/04/2011, 02:14 PM »
Hi Dry bean,

Was it express or regular post?  Not to be nosey, but what where your options with paying?  CC or Paypal etc?

The only thing that concerned me with their site was the lack of an business address or contact details apart from email.  Emails not always the best form of communication when problems arise.

They have an excellent range and the free post is a big bonus for me.  Usually I have to pay about $15 for a 5kg express postbag for 5kg of beans which really bumps up the price.

Morning Lacehim,
shipped regular mail, works fine for me as I always keep a stock of about 30 kg on hand so am in no rush.
I paid by bank transfer, couldn't be easier.
I agree, a contact phone number would be nice.
Free shipping on orders over $25 is certainly a bonus.
No complaints so far. ;D
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« Reply #13 on: 18/04/2011, 02:17 PM »
That's good to know.  I might just place and order for a few different beans that I don't normally see or missed out on.

Out of interest, what did you buy?

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« Reply #14 on: 18/04/2011, 06:14 PM »
That's good to know.  I might just place and order for a few different beans that I don't normally see or missed out on.

Out of interest, what did you buy?

Brazil Moreninha Formosa                     3.000 Kg
Kenyan AB Karen                                   2.000Kg
Nicaragua Maragogype Superior           ?2.000Kg
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« Reply #15 on: 18/04/2011, 06:19 PM »
Roasted 625 grams of the Nicaragua Maragogype Superior from Bean Green this morning, they roasted very evenly, took them pretty dark as is my preference, all looks good to me.
I had forgotten just how large these  Maragogype beans are, enormous. ;D
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« Reply #16 on: 19/04/2011, 09:49 AM »
I have recently tried www.greenbeancoffee.com.au as I had run out of bean that someone wanted.
Price? $15 per kilo plus delivery. The same bean from HAB - $6 per kilo (last year).
Ordered on the 9/04 arrived 18/04.
Well packaged, nice bag but just slightly under weight (well within the scales margin of error - so no concern)

Thanks BIliss, I also hadn't seen Bean Green before. Looks good. Prices are good too.
I have bought the Costa Rica Finca De Licho from MTC Group and it was $11.50/Kg plus delivery. Drinking a nice syphon of it as we speak! So $16/Kg is great price - at 2Kg free delivery and their margin prior is only $9 :o
Not to mention they have to get it delivered to themselves, store it, package it and run the risk of no one buying it.

Will have to give them a go one day......soon

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« Reply #17 on: 20/04/2011, 01:37 PM »
Well packaged, nice bag but just slightly under weight (well within the scales margin of error - so no concern)

Stupid scales >:(. My bad for posting that.
Weighed the 5kg bag - 4995g (including the cotton bag). Weigh up 2500g for roasting. Weigh what is remaining (no cotton bag) - 2530g.
The scales clearly are not linear but still 1% out over 5Kg is 50g.

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« Reply #18 on: 20/04/2011, 06:00 PM »
Yep Beangreen all the way. I have used them for my  last 3 orders and have been extremely pleased with their service and products. They have great new arrivals added all the time too and a great freight charge.
great forum here too guys
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« Reply #19 on: 20/04/2011, 07:30 PM »
PS. Let us know what they roast like :-)

I have roasted the same bean before. The green bean looks like the same quality as from the other supplier.
It is a Sumatra Gayo bean. Fairtrade so the quality isn't the best. Instead of roasting to find the sweet spot or roasting to get what you want out of the bean it is more of roasting to make it drinkable. But what the customer wants the costumer gets, I just try to make it the best I can.

With this bean my drop temp is a lot lower and the time first crack is longer (14-15mins instead of 9-11). The ramp to first crack is far more linear. Normal time between FC an SC.
With a more "normal" roast profile the bean was tasting too dirty and straw like in an unpleasant way.

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« Reply #20 on: 20/04/2011, 07:35 PM »
Fairtrade so the quality isn't the best.
Interesting BL, are you saying Fairtrade means something less than top quality? ???
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« Reply #21 on: 20/04/2011, 08:27 PM »
I have used some gayo organic from beangreen and got a got result. Not a good as  some blue batak i bought from BG and is now up in my favorites.
Don't know if it is the same stuff as you bought from greenbean coffee though?
Would love to hear your thoughts on the Fair Trade  thing.

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« Reply #22 on: 20/04/2011, 08:28 PM »
A lot of Sumatrans have a funky flavour
This flavour is mainly in the crema
I normally stir the crema in for a more pleasant cup

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« Reply #23 on: 20/04/2011, 09:07 PM »
Fairtrade so the quality isn't the best.
Interesting BL, are you saying Fairtrade means something less than top quality? ???

I have found that there is a perception in the public that fairtrade relates to (top) quality.
In my small experience it doesn't. It ain't the worst but it ain't the best. I have only roasted up 7 variants of fairtrade. This Sumatra to me is a average bean. You need to work at making it good. The only excellent one I have roasted was the Rwanda from Andy.
Two others I have have been down right awful. I use one in a blend were by some magic it works really well, one of those 2 + 2 -1 = 5.
Two others ok, good but certainly not great.

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« Reply #24 on: 22/04/2011, 08:24 AM »
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