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« Reply #50 on: 05/06/2011, 10:16 PM »
KK that's why I thought I'd ask, I swear I've seen someone say that they ordered from there, have no idea where but it was an Australian saying it.

I know that some New Zealanders have successfully done it

I dont want the disappointment if I do order and its destroyed by quarantine on arrival

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« Reply #51 on: 05/06/2011, 10:18 PM »
Roughly speaking you can get a country based import arrangement. So for example you can arrange to get beans from the USA generally including Sweet Marias etc or you could get ANOTHER for PNG and yet another for Timor.

The rules are hard to navigate and expensive so unless you plan to get quantity and resell you are far better off to go local and pay the higher $$/kg.

If you are referring to Redzone (Chris Blair) the Kiwi and all round nice guy then yes he does buy into NZ from the USA but different quarantine I am sure.

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« Reply #52 on: 05/06/2011, 10:23 PM »
Oh just thought I'd say that this has nothing to do with price, they do get varieties that we don't get over here so just thought I'd ask the question.

KK that's also why I wouldn't do it if no one else has tried.  I know that in their shipping information they state that they have only ever had three shipments stopped and none of them were in Australia.
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« Reply #53 on: 05/06/2011, 10:35 PM »
According to the Australian Quarantine and Inspection Service, Raw/Green Coffee is listed as an item that CANNOT be mailed to Australia. Refer to the following link for more info: http://www.daff.gov.au/aqis/mail/cant-mail

This doesn't mean that coffee cannot be imported just that it cannot be received through the mail and will be seized if detected. All raw/green coffee imports must follow due process in order to legally enter this country.

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« Reply #54 on: 05/06/2011, 10:38 PM »
Thanks Vinitasse, I hadn't looked that far yet :)
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« Reply #55 on: 05/06/2011, 10:42 PM »
This is where is gets confusing if you are the holder of a valid permit you can have green beans posted to you providing you meet the requirements http://www.aqis.gov.au/icon32/asp/ex_casecontent.asp?intNodeId=8919030&intCommodityId=896&Types=none&WhichQuery=Go+to+full+text&intSearch=1&LogSessionID=0

Have a bity of a read of the above link and try not to go to sleep reading it  ;)

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« Reply #56 on: 05/06/2011, 10:55 PM »
Thanks BF... that was a fun bit of reading :o

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« Reply #57 on: 05/06/2011, 11:18 PM »
Ahhh so I could if I wanted to, it would just cost a bit on top of what I'd pay for shipping up to 5kg of green beans.

Oh well just stick to what I can get here :)
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« Reply #58 on: 06/06/2011, 10:22 AM »
Unfortunately, it's not easy - even with Permits.

4 years ago I spent numerous weeks, phone calls to AQIS in Canberra and lots of running around to arrange an import Permit to bring in 30kg of washed arabica from Asia for a trial.

Having checked with AQIS that I have all bases covered, paid my permit fee, etc. then waited, waited, waited.........waited.

AQIS had decided to seize my parcel, despite having the permit at our end, the senders documents were in a foreign language and AQIS then proceeded to place my parcel in quarantine in Sydney (very useful for me in Melbourne) and threaten me with a high fee to be charged for storage and disposal if I did not collect the goods - after paying for the contents to be Bromide because AQIS wanted to be extra safe.

The whole experience was a wasted exercise (time, money, emotion) - almost 4 months from end to end.

Having said all that, AQIS do a fantastic job - just getting through the process efficiently can be challenging.

I did learn that some countries are trusted more than others.........according to AQIS (unofficially of course).

If anyone intends to proceed down the path of import, just ensure you have a method of getting your goods from an AQIS compound to you, otherwise it can become expensive and very difficult, especially when you are interstate or remote.

Sweet Marias sometimes have (in the past) listed similar lines to Zephyr, of which MTC may be able to assist (as the Aus agent), but only in decent volumes.


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« Reply #59 on: 13/06/2011, 03:48 PM »
A big thanks to Jeff at mycuppa for taking the time on a public holiday to sort me out some greens (and extras).

Will report back on my experience with them.
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« Reply #60 on: 13/06/2011, 04:11 PM »
A big thanks to Jeff at mycuppa for taking the time on a public holiday to sort me out some greens (and extras).

Will report back on my experience with them.

Good luck mate, trust all goes well, what type of roasting setup are you planning on using?  ;D
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« Reply #61 on: 13/06/2011, 06:02 PM »
Good luck mate, trust all goes well, what type of roasting setup are you planning on using?  ;D
Just my trusty frankenpopper for now, but when I get back from my forthcoming holiday in a few weeks, I'll be recommisioning and upgrading a hottop I picked up for a good price some time ago.
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« Reply #62 on: 13/06/2011, 06:07 PM »
Just my trusty frankenpopper for now, but when I get back from my forthcoming holiday in a few weeks, I'll be recommisioning and upgrading a hottop I picked up for a good price some time ago.
frankenpopper. ;D
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« Reply #63 on: 13/06/2011, 07:36 PM »
A big thanks to Jeff at mycuppa for taking the time on a public holiday to sort me out some greens (and extras).

Will report back on my experience with them.

Thanks Ewan - it was a delight meeting you today and chatting about all things coffee.

Bukit is very nice, remember to let rest about 9 days. Tons of body, crema and that typical sumatran hint of mocha

PNG Bannum Wo AA is a stellar coffee - I am rationing myself until the new crop arrives in a few weeks. Such a beautifully balanced, clean cup.

Tiger is a reasonably strong bean - dark choc and cocoa spices.

Costa Rica Tarrazu is like a candy stick - super sweet and you may think you are drinking a hot slurpee.

Good luck with the roasting.

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« Reply #64 on: 13/06/2011, 07:46 PM »
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« Reply #65 on: 14/06/2011, 12:48 PM »
Just placed my first order with beangreen.  Very smooth and paypal option for payment is great.

Ordered

2kg Indian Monsoonal Malabar AA
1kg Ethiopian Yirgacheffe Grade 2 Washed - 1kg
1kg Brazil Daterra Estate  - Sweet Collection
1kg Honduras El Filo Cup of Excellence

It was really nice to be able to order as 1kg so that I can try a number of different beans, good prices and free postage too.

Would have preferred a https checkout which was my only concern.

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« Reply #66 on: 14/06/2011, 07:17 PM »
I buy my beans from a variety of sources:
Ministry Grounds
Beangreen
CS
Greenguys (no longer around)

I really appreciate being able to buy 1kg of beans from Beangreen. It gives you the flexibility of trying a number of different varieties without amassing a huge stockpile. Their service has always been good, and delivery is very quick. Quality is good, and I have enjoyed all the varieties I have bought. They have a great choice, prices are reasonable and were recommended by an industry specialist.
The only improvement, or should I say service that they can add is a more detailed description of their beans. By this I mean a description of the flavour/tastes one should expect from the bean;and possibly a suggestion of a roast profile. In depth cupping results are probably wishful thinking.
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« Reply #67 on: 15/06/2011, 03:21 PM »
Just got my green beans from Bean Green.

Can't get any better than next day delivery!  Very impressed.  I will be buying from these guys again, they stock a great range of beans and I love being able to buy from 1kg upwards. :)

Big thanks to everyone at Bean Green.

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« Reply #68 on: 15/06/2011, 03:37 PM »
I bought some greens from Bean Green also and found the service and the product exemplary! Thanks AM for putting me on to them! I've also used Ministry Of Grounds and CS and found both services excellent. In the old days I used Alan Frew's CoffeeCo and Merlos Torrefazione in the Valley (Brisbane).
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« Reply #69 on: 25/06/2011, 05:00 PM »
I get mine from;

- Green Bean ( great variety plus some exotics which they sell in 500g lots)
- Ministry Grounds
- CS
- Di Bella - theyre happy to sell Green Beans - other roasters arent.

I prefer now to buy by the kilo - at one stage I was being bulldozed into buying 2,5kG at a time which was expensive and it got a bit boring when you only roast 300g per week.

Prefer buying more expensive beans , Cup of Excellence, - exotic and African mainly.


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« Reply #70 on: 21/07/2011, 11:03 AM »
Thanks for people offer some good info about where to get the green bean.
I just try to start my first home roast due to the local roaster start to become less reliable and pricy.

Since I live pretty far from urban area (Townsville, North QLD), the postage is a huge concern for me.
After quote few kg green bean at CS, it will cost me 20 bucks.
Bean Green sounds like a better option for me.

Since I am a newbie of home roast, and never really know what kind of flavour I prefer. (Used to buy home blend from local roaster).
Can some body suggest which blend I can start with from "Bean Green"?
And I don't think they offer any mix package for starter like CS did, right?
Then I have to buy at least 1 kg for each bean.
I also looks for some decaf bean for which I can drink after evening.

Cheers
Colin

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« Reply #71 on: 21/07/2011, 11:15 AM »
Thanks for people offer some good info about where to get the green bean.
I just try to start my first home roast due to the local roaster start to become less reliable and pricy.

Since I live pretty far from urban area (Townsville, North QLD), the postage is a huge concern for me.
After quote few kg green bean at CS, it will cost me 20 bucks.
Bean Green sounds like a better option for me.

Since I am a newbie of home roast, and never really know what kind of flavour I prefer. (Used to buy home blend from local roaster).
Can some body suggest which blend I can start with from "Bean Green"?
And I don't think they offer any mix package for starter like CS did, right?
Then I have to buy at least 1 kg for each bean.
I also looks for some decaf bean for which I can drink after evening.

Cheers
Colin

I have not ordered from beangreen (yet), but personally I'd try and source a few different region beans just to get you going. Having to get $50 worth to get free shipping, I'd get a selection of five:

I'd get something 1kg of each of: Ethiopian Yirgacheffe, Kenyan AA, Brazil Santos naturals, PNG Kimel, Indonesian Java Kalistat.

Should give you a sampling of very differing coffees to play with. Others will have other opinions, but that's what I'd go for. You might love some, you might hate some, but it will get your tastebuds deciding what you like. It will also allow you to do some basic blending - Indonesian, for example, blends well with Ethiopian generally. The Brazil is a good base bean if you want to mellow out some of the others if you don't like them as much etc.

There is one decaf on beangreen, so go with that one, but personally I wouldn't roast that to begin with - they will roast completely differently to all the others and may just end up confusing and frustrating you in the short term.
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« Reply #72 on: 21/07/2011, 04:13 PM »
Yep, what Richard said. That'd would be a good selection. Also try each roasted both light and dark. Not sure what you'll be using to roast, but the 500g cs samples don't last for many roasts (and you don't get to choose what beans are in the pack).
I don't think CS is best for you given you don't yet know what you like and shipping is costly, but keep looking in future once you have some favourites as Andy does get good beans and some would be worth ordering if you knew 2.5kg was not going to be wasted.
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« Reply #73 on: 21/07/2011, 04:17 PM »
Thanks for people offer some good info about where to get the green bean.
I just try to start my first home roast due to the local roaster start to become less reliable and pricy.

Since I live pretty far from urban area (Townsville, North QLD), the postage is a huge concern for me.
After quote few kg green bean at CS, it will cost me 20 bucks.
Bean Green sounds like a better option for me.

Since I am a newbie of home roast, and never really know what kind of flavour I prefer. (Used to buy home blend from local roaster).
Can some body suggest which blend I can start with from "Bean Green"?
And I don't think they offer any mix package for starter like CS did, right?
Then I have to buy at least 1 kg for each bean.
I also looks for some decaf bean for which I can drink after evening.

Cheers
Colin

Hi and welcome Colin

I blend when the need arises
I normally take "pot Luck" & blend the small amounts I have left over from the single origin roasts

So far I have had great luck with all my add hock blends
Experiment is the spice of live

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« Reply #74 on: 21/07/2011, 07:43 PM »
Thanks for people offer some good info about where to get the green bean.
I just try to start my first home roast due to the local roaster start to become less reliable and pricy.

Since I live pretty far from urban area (Townsville, North QLD), the postage is a huge concern for me.
After quote few kg green bean at CS, it will cost me 20 bucks.
Bean Green sounds like a better option for me.

Since I am a newbie of home roast, and never really know what kind of flavour I prefer. (Used to buy home blend from local roaster).
Can some body suggest which blend I can start with from "Bean Green"?
And I don't think they offer any mix package for starter like CS did, right?
Then I have to buy at least 1 kg for each bean.
I also looks for some decaf bean for which I can drink after evening.

Cheers
Colin
I agree with the suggestions of others Colin, buy 5 x 1kg bags of different Arabica beans from different countries of origin, that way you will be able to sample various flavours as well as qualify for free shipping.
Regarding quality, my feeling is the quality of greens from Beangreen is just as good if not better than greens from other suppliers and the price is certainly competitive. ;) 
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