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Title: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: AngerManagement on 09/04/2011, 04:26 PM
Sources of Green Beans in smaller quantities for the home roaster.

Site Sponsors selling Green by the kg

 Bean Green  (http://www.beangreen.com.au/) delivery is great and a good  range  of products.
 My Cuppa  (http://www.mycuppa.com.au/) delivery is great and a variety of greens (also roasted beans).
 Coffee Parts  (http://coffeeparts.com/coffeebeans/greenbeans.html) small variety of greens and good delivery.
Jetblack Espresso  (http://www.jetblackespresso.com.au/shop/ac/green-coffee-beans/) small variety of greens and good delivery.
Barazi - Koffee Kosmo site  (http://koffeekosmo.com.au/Green-Beans/View-all-products.html) good variety of greens and good delivery.


Crema Members with beans to sell some/all of the time

  Wotb  (http://www.bestcafes.com.au/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2056)


edited last by Beanflying
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Dry bean. on 09/04/2011, 06:58 PM

I still buy through CS, have not heard of Bean Green before, prices seem fair and free delivery on orders over $25 ;D certainly worth a try, how long have they been in business and where are they located?
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Dry bean. on 09/04/2011, 09:10 PM
Bean Green have been around for some time and have a solid following in Brisbane and a few other places. For various reasons I have had to pass their details onto other well know ROASTERS in Brisbane, for when they could not get supplied, up from down south - GB assisted and every one was happy?  Pleasant guys to talk to and were to come to the CS meet and Greet but the owners wife or child became ill ???

Thanks for the heads up Bliss, have placed a trial order of 5 kg, will be interested to see how the process goes, not sure how they ship, guess I'll find out in due course. :)
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Koffee Kosmo on 09/04/2011, 09:58 PM
I use the green beans from the Koffee Kosmo online shop

They are very reasonably priced for AA grade beans and at times we are selling at cost.
Green beans are packed in 1KG Mylar bags

Barazi are the distributors of the KKTO & Green Bean supplies so Brisbane home roasters can Just walk in and pick up a kilo or 2

The reason we supply green beans are supplied in 1 kg one way valve Mylar bags, is so the home roaster has a new bag to store the roasted beans

The web site caters to the green coffee bean needs of all home coffee roasters but mostly to service the current & future KKTO owners

Check the web site of available green beans often, as the list of green beans changes with availability

http://koffeekosmo.com.au/Green-Beans/View-all-products.html

KK
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Koffee Kosmo on 09/04/2011, 10:22 PM
Sorry KK I keep forgetting that beans can be had there as well...

So where do people in other states get their beans from...

Must be any number of providers out side CS ?

In times past I got my green beans from local roasters, its as easy as asking if they sell to the public

KK
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: WotB on 09/04/2011, 10:35 PM
Depends on the quantities involved.  I've looked at beangreen for sometime now.  Another place if you're in NSW is Ministry grounds.  Neil always gets in top notch stuff.

I'm currently waiting on some Colombian microlot samples from another place in NSW.  A bit out of reach for the home roaster, as minimum quantities are around the 35kg mark.  Its easily split between a bunch of mates however.
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Koffee Kosmo on 12/04/2011, 02:21 PM
I use Ministry Grounds too (oh and that other place, but only when something catches my eye). Good to know you have greens Koffee Kosmo.  

You should give them a go
I test roast all beans that are offered before they go on sale

I know its a hard job, but hey someone's got to do it   ;D ;D ;D

KK
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Dry bean. on 12/04/2011, 07:08 PM
A logical add on to the question "Where do you get your greens from " would be, why do you buy from a particular company and what are your priorities when choosing a supplier? and some of the answers will depend on whether you live in a capital city or country area.

My priorities are

Bean quality.

Price.

Ease of payment.

Prompt shipping.

Good communication.

So far BeanGreen have met most of my criteria, will let you know what quality is like once the shipment arrives, average price of $12.70 per kg to the front door is pretty reasonable and I certainly like the fact that they ship orders over $25 freight free. ;D
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Lou on 14/04/2011, 12:53 PM
I agree with those priorities, with Bean Quality and Good Communication at the top. A clincher for me is if there are Central and South American beans, particularly Nicaragua.

KK - looking forward to posting an order soon. Just got to get the pile down a bit first!
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Lacehim on 15/04/2011, 10:33 PM
Wow some good info.  Might try green bran because being up the sunny coast freight is a killer.  Do they sell in 1kg bags?  I also keep forgetting about your site kk.  Sorry.  I've tried pioneer roastary before but I can only get a hold of Kate on weekdays.  They also only stock limited types of beans.  I also kinda like the info posted online when ordering, like what to expect in the cup, best roasted too etc.  It helps me figure out what I like and what to look for.

I'm hoping to roast more but really need help with starting to blend.  I would love to buy some monsoon malaba aa.  The coffees I had at troys where lovely.

Maybe we need a crema gathering bliss. ;) maybe with pizza ;)

Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Dry bean. on 18/04/2011, 12:11 PM
Thanks for the heads up Bliss, have placed a trial order of 7 kg, will be interested to see how the process goes, not sure how they ship, guess I'll find out in due course. :)
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Order arrived safe and sound from Bean Green this AM, well packed in sturdy paper bags with wire closure, certainly are a good company to deal with, and as I mentioned before, delivered to my door "by Australia Post" freight free.
Will roast some this PM and report back. ;D
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Lacehim on 18/04/2011, 12:18 PM
Hi Dry bean,

Was it express or regular post?  Not to be nosey, but what where your options with paying?  CC or Paypal etc?

The only thing that concerned me with their site was the lack of an business address or contact details apart from email.  Emails not always the best form of communication when problems arise.

They have an excellent range and the free post is a big bonus for me.  Usually I have to pay about $15 for a 5kg express postbag for 5kg of beans which really bumps up the price.
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Dry bean. on 18/04/2011, 02:14 PM
Hi Dry bean,

Was it express or regular post?  Not to be nosey, but what where your options with paying?  CC or Paypal etc?

The only thing that concerned me with their site was the lack of an business address or contact details apart from email.  Emails not always the best form of communication when problems arise.

They have an excellent range and the free post is a big bonus for me.  Usually I have to pay about $15 for a 5kg express postbag for 5kg of beans which really bumps up the price.

Morning Lacehim,
shipped regular mail, works fine for me as I always keep a stock of about 30 kg on hand so am in no rush.
I paid by bank transfer, couldn't be easier.
I agree, a contact phone number would be nice.
Free shipping on orders over $25 is certainly a bonus.
No complaints so far. ;D
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Lacehim on 18/04/2011, 02:17 PM
That's good to know.  I might just place and order for a few different beans that I don't normally see or missed out on.

Out of interest, what did you buy?
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Dry bean. on 18/04/2011, 06:14 PM
That's good to know.  I might just place and order for a few different beans that I don't normally see or missed out on.

Out of interest, what did you buy?

Brazil Moreninha Formosa                     3.000 Kg
Kenyan AB Karen                                   2.000Kg
Nicaragua Maragogype Superior           ?2.000Kg
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Dry bean. on 18/04/2011, 06:19 PM
Roasted 625 grams of the Nicaragua Maragogype Superior from Bean Green this morning, they roasted very evenly, took them pretty dark as is my preference, all looks good to me.
I had forgotten just how large these  Maragogype beans are, enormous. ;D
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Bottom Line on 19/04/2011, 09:49 AM
I have recently tried www.greenbeancoffee.com.au as I had run out of bean that someone wanted.
Price? $15 per kilo plus delivery. The same bean from HAB - $6 per kilo (last year).
Ordered on the 9/04 arrived 18/04.
Well packaged, nice bag but just slightly under weight (well within the scales margin of error - so no concern)

Thanks BIliss, I also hadn't seen Bean Green before. Looks good. Prices are good too.
I have bought the Costa Rica Finca De Licho from MTC Group and it was $11.50/Kg plus delivery. Drinking a nice syphon of it as we speak! So $16/Kg is great price - at 2Kg free delivery and their margin prior is only $9 :o
Not to mention they have to get it delivered to themselves, store it, package it and run the risk of no one buying it.

Will have to give them a go one day......soon
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Bottom Line on 20/04/2011, 01:37 PM
Well packaged, nice bag but just slightly under weight (well within the scales margin of error - so no concern)

Stupid scales >:(. My bad for posting that.
Weighed the 5kg bag - 4995g (including the cotton bag). Weigh up 2500g for roasting. Weigh what is remaining (no cotton bag) - 2530g.
The scales clearly are not linear but still 1% out over 5Kg is 50g.
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Barrymik on 20/04/2011, 06:00 PM
Yep Beangreen all the way. I have used them for my  last 3 orders and have been extremely pleased with their service and products. They have great new arrivals added all the time too and a great freight charge.
great forum here too guys
cheers
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Bottom Line on 20/04/2011, 07:30 PM
PS. Let us know what they roast like :-)

I have roasted the same bean before. The green bean looks like the same quality as from the other supplier.
It is a Sumatra Gayo bean. Fairtrade so the quality isn't the best. Instead of roasting to find the sweet spot or roasting to get what you want out of the bean it is more of roasting to make it drinkable. But what the customer wants the costumer gets, I just try to make it the best I can.

With this bean my drop temp is a lot lower and the time first crack is longer (14-15mins instead of 9-11). The ramp to first crack is far more linear. Normal time between FC an SC.
With a more "normal" roast profile the bean was tasting too dirty and straw like in an unpleasant way.
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Dry bean. on 20/04/2011, 07:35 PM
Fairtrade so the quality isn't the best.
Interesting BL, are you saying Fairtrade means something less than top quality? ???
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Barrymik on 20/04/2011, 08:27 PM
I have used some gayo organic from beangreen and got a got result. Not a good as  some blue batak i bought from BG and is now up in my favorites.
Don't know if it is the same stuff as you bought from greenbean coffee though?
Would love to hear your thoughts on the Fair Trade  thing.
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Koffee Kosmo on 20/04/2011, 08:28 PM
A lot of Sumatrans have a funky flavour
This flavour is mainly in the crema
I normally stir the crema in for a more pleasant cup

KK
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Bottom Line on 20/04/2011, 09:07 PM
Fairtrade so the quality isn't the best.
Interesting BL, are you saying Fairtrade means something less than top quality? ???

I have found that there is a perception in the public that fairtrade relates to (top) quality.
In my small experience it doesn't. It ain't the worst but it ain't the best. I have only roasted up 7 variants of fairtrade. This Sumatra to me is a average bean. You need to work at making it good. The only excellent one I have roasted was the Rwanda from Andy.
Two others I have have been down right awful. I use one in a blend were by some magic it works really well, one of those 2 + 2 -1 = 5.
Two others ok, good but certainly not great.
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Lacehim on 22/04/2011, 08:24 AM
Was it called Blood, Sweat and Luxuries?
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Thundergod on 22/04/2011, 05:10 PM
Those of you who know me from CS know I have a staple supply of PNG Kimel.
I got my two bags so far from CoffeeCom after being introduced to them by Hazel.
They don't normally sell to the public.
I appreciate that they are willing to sell me a bag every couple of years.

The rest of my supply has been bought from CS and I have a few bags that I bought from a CS member when he was leaving to live overseas.
Some of his bags were obtained from other than CS.

I have bought from MG in the past as well.

I'm still trying to cut down my stash to a few favoured beans.
Stash is only about 80kg now; about 50kg of that is the Kimel.
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: RichardM on 22/04/2011, 06:12 PM
I'm still trying to cut down my stash to a few favoured beans.
Stash is only about 80kg now; about 50kg of that is the Kimel.

That's crazy. I think I have about 30kg that I've built up, but not one bean I have more than 5kg of. I need to get me some more Limu though.

Question for those who buy from other places than CS, is the Gunna Limu Etho the same flavour profile as all the other Ethiopian Limu beans? That is by far my favourite bean.
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: RichardM on 19/05/2011, 08:54 PM
So with all the dust still going on about Fair Trade and other so called Farmer assist packages...

What is important to you when it comes to getting ya greens ?

For me, when thinking of my coffee addiction it is; I want them now and I want X and I want it with min mucking about.

I should just drop around and pick up, but I still get it delivered from http://www.beangreen.com.au/

Anger on being a Lazy Slob.

Frankly I don't care about fair trade etc, but that's a discussion for another day. I care about consistency for one, but I think I'll honestly start getting them locally (<1km from my work) now. Ethiopian Limu for $10 a kg...and I know it's good quality as I've had it roasted from them (for reference, it is Chipironi Mountain Coffee). They roast for a lot of local businesses, so I can't really go wrong.

I don't want to buy from somewhere with a risk of getting a poor product, ever, so unless someone else has tried them out and gone to the trouble of letting me know (through here or otherwise) that it's decent I won't bother (ie I'd be happy to buy from KK or mycuppa, WOTB etc as I know they wouldn't risk their reputation).
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Vinitasse on 19/05/2011, 10:52 PM
Has anyone here ever bought greens from diBella? Apparently they offer a $7/kg discount to members of that other forum. What sort of price does that knock the per kg price down to (couldn't find greens on their web pages) and would it be worth pursuing a similar arrangement for Crema forum members as well?
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: WotB on 19/05/2011, 10:57 PM
I gotta get me some cloth bags with zippers.  WITHOUT a big stinking tiger picture on the front.

Keeps scaring people away.


It's hard getting the sort of quantities I want.  Too big for smaller players, too small for bigger players.  I also want to turn it over in a decent time.  Some I may cellar for evaluating at a later date (years down the track).  I wish half bags were the norm.


At $7/kg discount, they're not making a whole lot off it.
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Vinitasse on 19/05/2011, 11:55 PM
"With Honour   :)"


Anger on    ;)

Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Dry bean. on 27/05/2011, 06:57 PM
A lot of Sumatrans have a funky flavour
This flavour is mainly in the crema
I normally stir the crema in for a more pleasant cup

KK
Have to agree with you KK, way too earthy for my palate, greens from this part of the world are on my do not buy list. :)
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Gra on 29/05/2011, 03:43 PM
These days I use   these people  (http://www.beangreen.com.au/) as delivery is great and a good  range  of products.  Just us the show all button.


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Thanks for the reminder Mate I had forgotten all about BeanGreen I placed a order for some Ethiopian Yemen last week they landed next morning can't beat that for  service ay. ;) ;)

Cheers Gra..
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Gra on 29/05/2011, 03:45 PM
These days I use   these people  (http://www.beangreen.com.au/) as delivery is great and a good  range  of products.  Just us the show all button.


Thanks for the reminder Mate I had forgotten all about BeanGreen I placed a order for some Ethiopian Yemen last week they landed next morning can't beat that for  service ay. ;) ;)
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: shape_shifter on 02/06/2011, 12:56 PM
Does anyone know if there is anyone that still has the Brazil Bourbon?  My OH loves this but I can't seem to find it anywhere now, or is there another bean that is very close to it?
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Bean Flying on 02/06/2011, 01:00 PM
Does anyone know if there is anyone that still has the Brazil Bourbon?  My OH loves this but I can't seem to find it anywhere now, or is there another bean that is very close to it?

Drop Jeff a line http://www.mycuppa.com.au/GreenBeans/ (http://www.mycuppa.com.au/GreenBeans/) maybe give the Yellow bourbon a go and the Bukit Marante I have had as brown was a good one too if you want to try something different.
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: shape_shifter on 02/06/2011, 01:51 PM
Thanks BF I did find him in my searching, wondered if someone would recommend him.

It is the Yellow Bourbon, just checked the old label :)
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Bean Flying on 02/06/2011, 02:26 PM
I just unpacked 4kg of brown beans from Jeff this morning so yes recommended  :) if you are drinking milk coffees then the suuweet blend is well worth a go too.
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: RichardM on 02/06/2011, 02:36 PM
I just unpacked 4kg of brown beans from Jeff this morning so yes recommended  :) if you are drinking milk coffees then the su
uweet blend is well worth a go too.

Another recommendation here. Got 5kg of beans off him last week.
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Lacehim on 02/06/2011, 06:01 PM
5kg of green though I guess RichardM.  Have you roasted any yet?

Also see beangreen is now in the market place.  Great to see.
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Bean Flying on 02/06/2011, 06:17 PM
I have done an edit on the first post here to to reflect our sponsors that carry Greens too we currently have 4 and I am not sure if CosmoreX sells Green but Attilio might like to let us know.

Roasted a little from my WOTB basmati rice bag yesterday so I will report back in the brown section in a few days.
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: mycuppa on 02/06/2011, 06:58 PM
Another recommendation here. Got 5kg of beans off him last week.

I had'nt planned on selling those greens RM, but the desperation in your plea was simply too hard to refuse...........and the flattery just made me weak at the knees.

I just unpacked 4kg of brown beans from Jeff this morning so yes recommended  :) if you are drinking milk coffees then the suuweet blend is well worth a go too.

Thanks Timbo - I know the Tanza is still a tad fresh, but I'm tasting some very intense blackberry from this Estate AA and it's a cracker. Let me know what you think.........

Does anyone know if there is anyone that still has the Brazil Bourbon?  My OH loves this but I can't seem to find it anywhere now, or is there another bean that is very close to it?

SS, there is a small amount of BZL YB left - we don't really sell greens as a focus actually, but you are more than welcome to grab some - always happy to help out folks in need. This BZL YB is naturally pulped and has a very clean and sweet cup - it can also handle darker roasts if you are seeking caramel and hazelnut notes.

Some other BZL naturally pulped beans will taste very similar or equal to this BZL YB. We do have some very special Brazil that was prepared for the Japanese Premium market - sun dried, raised bed, stabilized in wooden vats for 3 months prior to shipment - very nice - but that's just teasing so I will stop there !.
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: shape_shifter on 02/06/2011, 07:38 PM
Thanks Jeff, yes it is something that I roast darker than what I normally would but my OH really does like this, we were discussing what was the best cup that I'd given him so far and it was a while ago but yes it was the Bourbon that has been roasted dark.

The other one sounds interesting too.

Mmmmm blackberry, now I didn't see any of that on your website :D
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: RichardM on 02/06/2011, 07:46 PM
I had'nt planned on selling those greens RM, but the desperation in your plea was simply too hard to refuse...........and the flattery just made me weak at the knees.

Hence why I didn't say what beans they were in the post :P

Can't wait to roast them, but gotta work through the samples you sent me first! :D

I'll promise not to share so noone knows what you let go :)
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: shape_shifter on 02/06/2011, 07:52 PM
Geez Richard ***slaps with a dead fish***

I've got to get on the 'in' with some of these guys :D
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Bean Flying on 02/06/2011, 08:17 PM
You will need to be given the secret handshake too  ;D
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: shape_shifter on 03/06/2011, 10:21 PM
 :o sorry that was a bit crass.

Anyway I hope that I can get hold of some fantastic beans in the future :)
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: shape_shifter on 05/06/2011, 09:50 PM
Has anyone ever ordered green beans from Sweet Marias?
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Koffee Kosmo on 05/06/2011, 09:59 PM
Has anyone ever ordered green beans from Sweet Marias?

I always thought that quarantine may not allow them into Australia
So I have never tried

KK
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: shape_shifter on 05/06/2011, 10:06 PM
KK that's why I thought I'd ask, I swear I've seen someone say that they ordered from there, have no idea where but it was an Australian saying it.
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Koffee Kosmo on 05/06/2011, 10:16 PM
KK that's why I thought I'd ask, I swear I've seen someone say that they ordered from there, have no idea where but it was an Australian saying it.

I know that some New Zealanders have successfully done it

I dont want the disappointment if I do order and its destroyed by quarantine on arrival

KK
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Bean Flying on 05/06/2011, 10:18 PM
Roughly speaking you can get a country based import arrangement. So for example you can arrange to get beans from the USA generally including Sweet Marias etc or you could get ANOTHER for PNG and yet another for Timor.

The rules are hard to navigate and expensive so unless you plan to get quantity and resell you are far better off to go local and pay the higher $$/kg.

If you are referring to Redzone (Chris Blair) the Kiwi and all round nice guy then yes he does buy into NZ from the USA but different quarantine I am sure.
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: shape_shifter on 05/06/2011, 10:23 PM
Oh just thought I'd say that this has nothing to do with price, they do get varieties that we don't get over here so just thought I'd ask the question.

KK that's also why I wouldn't do it if no one else has tried.  I know that in their shipping information they state that they have only ever had three shipments stopped and none of them were in Australia.
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Vinitasse on 05/06/2011, 10:35 PM
According to the Australian Quarantine and Inspection Service, Raw/Green Coffee is listed as an item that CANNOT be mailed to Australia. Refer to the following link for more info: http://www.daff.gov.au/aqis/mail/cant-mail

This doesn't mean that coffee cannot be imported just that it cannot be received through the mail and will be seized if detected. All raw/green coffee imports must follow due process in order to legally enter this country.
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: shape_shifter on 05/06/2011, 10:38 PM
Thanks Vinitasse, I hadn't looked that far yet :)
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Bean Flying on 05/06/2011, 10:42 PM
This is where is gets confusing if you are the holder of a valid permit you can have green beans posted to you providing you meet the requirements http://www.aqis.gov.au/icon32/asp/ex_casecontent.asp?intNodeId=8919030&intCommodityId=896&Types=none&WhichQuery=Go+to+full+text&intSearch=1&LogSessionID=0 (http://www.aqis.gov.au/icon32/asp/ex_casecontent.asp?intNodeId=8919030&intCommodityId=896&Types=none&WhichQuery=Go+to+full+text&intSearch=1&LogSessionID=0)

Have a bity of a read of the above link and try not to go to sleep reading it  ;)
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Vinitasse on 05/06/2011, 10:55 PM
Thanks BF... that was a fun bit of reading :o
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: shape_shifter on 05/06/2011, 11:18 PM
Ahhh so I could if I wanted to, it would just cost a bit on top of what I'd pay for shipping up to 5kg of green beans.

Oh well just stick to what I can get here :)
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: mycuppa on 06/06/2011, 10:22 AM
Unfortunately, it's not easy - even with Permits.

4 years ago I spent numerous weeks, phone calls to AQIS in Canberra and lots of running around to arrange an import Permit to bring in 30kg of washed arabica from Asia for a trial.

Having checked with AQIS that I have all bases covered, paid my permit fee, etc. then waited, waited, waited.........waited.

AQIS had decided to seize my parcel, despite having the permit at our end, the senders documents were in a foreign language and AQIS then proceeded to place my parcel in quarantine in Sydney (very useful for me in Melbourne) and threaten me with a high fee to be charged for storage and disposal if I did not collect the goods - after paying for the contents to be Bromide because AQIS wanted to be extra safe.

The whole experience was a wasted exercise (time, money, emotion) - almost 4 months from end to end.

Having said all that, AQIS do a fantastic job - just getting through the process efficiently can be challenging.

I did learn that some countries are trusted more than others.........according to AQIS (unofficially of course).

If anyone intends to proceed down the path of import, just ensure you have a method of getting your goods from an AQIS compound to you, otherwise it can become expensive and very difficult, especially when you are interstate or remote.

Sweet Marias sometimes have (in the past) listed similar lines to Zephyr, of which MTC may be able to assist (as the Aus agent), but only in decent volumes.

Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: UNM on 13/06/2011, 03:48 PM
A big thanks to Jeff at mycuppa for taking the time on a public holiday to sort me out some greens (and extras).

Will report back on my experience with them.
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Dry bean. on 13/06/2011, 04:11 PM
A big thanks to Jeff at mycuppa for taking the time on a public holiday to sort me out some greens (and extras).

Will report back on my experience with them.

Good luck mate, trust all goes well, what type of roasting setup are you planning on using?  ;D
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: UNM on 13/06/2011, 06:02 PM
Good luck mate, trust all goes well, what type of roasting setup are you planning on using?  ;D
Just my trusty frankenpopper for now, but when I get back from my forthcoming holiday in a few weeks, I'll be recommisioning and upgrading a hottop I picked up for a good price some time ago.
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Dry bean. on 13/06/2011, 06:07 PM
Just my trusty frankenpopper for now, but when I get back from my forthcoming holiday in a few weeks, I'll be recommisioning and upgrading a hottop I picked up for a good price some time ago.
frankenpopper. ;D
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: mycuppa on 13/06/2011, 07:36 PM
A big thanks to Jeff at mycuppa for taking the time on a public holiday to sort me out some greens (and extras).

Will report back on my experience with them.

Thanks Ewan - it was a delight meeting you today and chatting about all things coffee.

Bukit is very nice, remember to let rest about 9 days. Tons of body, crema and that typical sumatran hint of mocha

PNG Bannum Wo AA is a stellar coffee - I am rationing myself until the new crop arrives in a few weeks. Such a beautifully balanced, clean cup.

Tiger is a reasonably strong bean - dark choc and cocoa spices.

Costa Rica Tarrazu is like a candy stick - super sweet and you may think you are drinking a hot slurpee.

Good luck with the roasting.
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: UNM on 13/06/2011, 07:46 PM
frankenpopper. ;D
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Lacehim on 14/06/2011, 12:48 PM
Just placed my first order with beangreen.  Very smooth and paypal option for payment is great.

Ordered

2kg Indian Monsoonal Malabar AA
1kg Ethiopian Yirgacheffe Grade 2 Washed - 1kg
1kg Brazil Daterra Estate  - Sweet Collection
1kg Honduras El Filo Cup of Excellence

It was really nice to be able to order as 1kg so that I can try a number of different beans, good prices and free postage too.

Would have preferred a https checkout which was my only concern.
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Lwowiak on 14/06/2011, 07:17 PM
I buy my beans from a variety of sources:
Ministry Grounds
Beangreen
CS
Greenguys (no longer around)

I really appreciate being able to buy 1kg of beans from Beangreen. It gives you the flexibility of trying a number of different varieties without amassing a huge stockpile. Their service has always been good, and delivery is very quick. Quality is good, and I have enjoyed all the varieties I have bought. They have a great choice, prices are reasonable and were recommended by an industry specialist.
The only improvement, or should I say service that they can add is a more detailed description of their beans. By this I mean a description of the flavour/tastes one should expect from the bean;and possibly a suggestion of a roast profile. In depth cupping results are probably wishful thinking.
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Lacehim on 15/06/2011, 03:21 PM
Just got my green beans from Bean Green.

Can't get any better than next day delivery!  Very impressed.  I will be buying from these guys again, they stock a great range of beans and I love being able to buy from 1kg upwards. :)

Big thanks to everyone at Bean Green.
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Brett H on 15/06/2011, 03:37 PM
I bought some greens from Bean Green also and found the service and the product exemplary! Thanks AM for putting me on to them! I've also used Ministry Of Grounds and CS and found both services excellent. In the old days I used Alan Frew's CoffeeCo and Merlos Torrefazione in the Valley (Brisbane).
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Springbok on 25/06/2011, 05:00 PM
I get mine from;

- Green Bean ( great variety plus some exotics which they sell in 500g lots)
- Ministry Grounds
- CS
- Di Bella - theyre happy to sell Green Beans - other roasters arent.

I prefer now to buy by the kilo - at one stage I was being bulldozed into buying 2,5kG at a time which was expensive and it got a bit boring when you only roast 300g per week.

Prefer buying more expensive beans , Cup of Excellence, - exotic and African mainly.


Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: colinwen on 21/07/2011, 11:03 AM
Thanks for people offer some good info about where to get the green bean.
I just try to start my first home roast due to the local roaster start to become less reliable and pricy.

Since I live pretty far from urban area (Townsville, North QLD), the postage is a huge concern for me.
After quote few kg green bean at CS, it will cost me 20 bucks.
Bean Green sounds like a better option for me.

Since I am a newbie of home roast, and never really know what kind of flavour I prefer. (Used to buy home blend from local roaster).
Can some body suggest which blend I can start with from "Bean Green"?
And I don't think they offer any mix package for starter like CS did, right?
Then I have to buy at least 1 kg for each bean.
I also looks for some decaf bean for which I can drink after evening.

Cheers
Colin
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: RichardM on 21/07/2011, 11:15 AM
Thanks for people offer some good info about where to get the green bean.
I just try to start my first home roast due to the local roaster start to become less reliable and pricy.

Since I live pretty far from urban area (Townsville, North QLD), the postage is a huge concern for me.
After quote few kg green bean at CS, it will cost me 20 bucks.
Bean Green sounds like a better option for me.

Since I am a newbie of home roast, and never really know what kind of flavour I prefer. (Used to buy home blend from local roaster).
Can some body suggest which blend I can start with from "Bean Green"?
And I don't think they offer any mix package for starter like CS did, right?
Then I have to buy at least 1 kg for each bean.
I also looks for some decaf bean for which I can drink after evening.

Cheers
Colin

I have not ordered from beangreen (yet), but personally I'd try and source a few different region beans just to get you going. Having to get $50 worth to get free shipping, I'd get a selection of five:

I'd get something 1kg of each of: Ethiopian Yirgacheffe, Kenyan AA, Brazil Santos naturals, PNG Kimel, Indonesian Java Kalistat.

Should give you a sampling of very differing coffees to play with. Others will have other opinions, but that's what I'd go for. You might love some, you might hate some, but it will get your tastebuds deciding what you like. It will also allow you to do some basic blending - Indonesian, for example, blends well with Ethiopian generally. The Brazil is a good base bean if you want to mellow out some of the others if you don't like them as much etc.

There is one decaf on beangreen, so go with that one, but personally I wouldn't roast that to begin with - they will roast completely differently to all the others and may just end up confusing and frustrating you in the short term.
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: UNM on 21/07/2011, 04:13 PM
Yep, what Richard said. That'd would be a good selection. Also try each roasted both light and dark. Not sure what you'll be using to roast, but the 500g cs samples don't last for many roasts (and you don't get to choose what beans are in the pack).
I don't think CS is best for you given you don't yet know what you like and shipping is costly, but keep looking in future once you have some favourites as Andy does get good beans and some would be worth ordering if you knew 2.5kg was not going to be wasted.
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Koffee Kosmo on 21/07/2011, 04:17 PM
Thanks for people offer some good info about where to get the green bean.
I just try to start my first home roast due to the local roaster start to become less reliable and pricy.

Since I live pretty far from urban area (Townsville, North QLD), the postage is a huge concern for me.
After quote few kg green bean at CS, it will cost me 20 bucks.
Bean Green sounds like a better option for me.

Since I am a newbie of home roast, and never really know what kind of flavour I prefer. (Used to buy home blend from local roaster).
Can some body suggest which blend I can start with from "Bean Green"?
And I don't think they offer any mix package for starter like CS did, right?
Then I have to buy at least 1 kg for each bean.
I also looks for some decaf bean for which I can drink after evening.

Cheers
Colin

Hi and welcome Colin

I blend when the need arises
I normally take "pot Luck" & blend the small amounts I have left over from the single origin roasts

So far I have had great luck with all my add hock blends
Experiment is the spice of live

KK



Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Dry bean. on 21/07/2011, 07:43 PM
Thanks for people offer some good info about where to get the green bean.
I just try to start my first home roast due to the local roaster start to become less reliable and pricy.

Since I live pretty far from urban area (Townsville, North QLD), the postage is a huge concern for me.
After quote few kg green bean at CS, it will cost me 20 bucks.
Bean Green sounds like a better option for me.

Since I am a newbie of home roast, and never really know what kind of flavour I prefer. (Used to buy home blend from local roaster).
Can some body suggest which blend I can start with from "Bean Green"?
And I don't think they offer any mix package for starter like CS did, right?
Then I have to buy at least 1 kg for each bean.
I also looks for some decaf bean for which I can drink after evening.

Cheers
Colin
I agree with the suggestions of others Colin, buy 5 x 1kg bags of different Arabica beans from different countries of origin, that way you will be able to sample various flavours as well as qualify for free shipping.
Regarding quality, my feeling is the quality of greens from Beangreen is just as good if not better than greens from other suppliers and the price is certainly competitive. ;) 
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: colinwen on 21/07/2011, 11:54 PM
Thanks for everyone's reply.
That will be very useful, especially thanks for Richard by listing all these choice.

I am thinking buying a 2nd popcorn maker and do some modification.
Still looking and bidding around the eBay.
Hope will get some luck with something under 20.-.

I always like to do the experiment. I will say coffee is quite a science too, especially when I really got a publication from somewhere about espresso brewing time.

I have not really thought about blend yet.
I may need to spend more time surfing on the website about blend.
First thing first. Will order my green bean soon!!

Thanks to all again.

Colin
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: rival81 on 22/07/2011, 07:24 AM
I get mine from Ministry Grounds too.  I've found the quality to be excellent. They have some really great central american beans coming soon.

I also like the fact that you can review beans on the site. I always give my favourites a good write-up to help others who might be having trouble trying to decide. :)
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: colinwen on 17/10/2011, 06:21 PM
I have purchased my green bean from BeanGreen twice already.
I am going to buy the third one and share the bean with other friend in uni.

Although I know the delivery fee for beanGreen is free, I found their bean a bit higher than CS(beanbay).
In the end, CS actually offer cheaper invoice (same region/estate bean)

As a newbie, I dont know if there is any different (quality, service?) between all these different importer?
Because so far I just want to find the cheaper one or money-wise one.
I live in Townsville, QLD, so the postage is pretty high and no way I can pick it up myself.

Has anyone experienced the cheapest one or cheapest way to get the green bean?

Cheers
Colin
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Muscles on 17/10/2011, 06:27 PM
Hi Colin,
I have shopped with both CS and GreenBean and your comment that CS is cheaper per invoice is not entirely true. On several occasions I have found the reverse to be the case. It depends obviously on the QTY ordered and which S/O you are buying. I still shop with both and yes I have noticed a difference in the same (or like named) S/O from both vendors.

Marc
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: shape_shifter on 17/10/2011, 08:30 PM
I tend to shop with places other than CS at present, mainly due to the fact that I'm buying more expensive beans and can't afford to buy in 2.5kg lots.  That means Beangreen and Ministry Grounds.
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Bean Flying on 17/10/2011, 09:25 PM
.......
Has anyone experienced the cheapest one or cheapest way to get the green bean?
Cheers
Colin

Generally along with cheapest you are going to find with green price is related to quality not all the time but it is a fairly good guide. Can't think of anyone buying sports cars that bag up and sell small quantities of Green to home roasters on the profit margins.

Best bet to keep the freight down is order a little bigger batches so whatever freight is lower/kg. As someone in a similar situation to you (out of a capital) I do tend to buy 5kg or larger lots normally.

Apart from that if your a student and on a budget it's a bit of a tough gig paying more than you have to but it's worth it for the variation and taste experiences offered.  8)
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: colinwen on 17/10/2011, 10:11 PM
Thanks for Marc, shape shifter and beanflying's reply.
Sounds like there is no 100% correct answer and I need to compare more often and what I can offer.
So far from my first two purchase and the coming third one, my strategy is stick to few SO I like and add on some new one which cheap.
My budget is under 15.- per kg then I will be happy enough.
I start to share my roast bean with friend with a basic cost, that way I kind of been paid to experience my roast.
So I can try more different type of bean in a short turnover rate.

Honestly, change from popcorn maker to a Corretto (BM/HG) rise up the amount of bean i can roast and really enjoy the difference I try.

I will include the ministry grounds for my next purchase, and I love their informative website too.
Just have not got the quote of the postage yet.
Not sure how much will cost me.

Colin
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: mycuppa on 17/10/2011, 10:16 PM
Generally along with cheapest you are going to find with green price is related to quality not all the time but it is a fairly good guide. Can't think of anyone buying sports cars that bag up and sell small quantities of Green to home roasters on the profit margins.

Best bet to keep the freight down is order a little bigger batches so whatever freight is lower/kg. As someone in a similar situation to you (out of a capital) I do tend to buy 5kg or larger lots normally.

Apart from that if your a student and on a budget it's a bit of a tough gig paying more than you have to but it's worth it for the variation and taste experiences offered.  8)

So true.

Pricing on coffee can vary up to 600% depending on the grade and availability (exclusiveness) of the bean. Coffee prices are pretty much set by a number of factors - differential on settled contracts from the C-index, financing, storage, risk, freight, etc.

Green bean supply is by no means a margin or value-based business, it's a scale business. If you think that one suppliers is "more expensive" than another, you will find that almost impossible to prove given that suppliers will *RARELY* stock the same precise bean, e.g. it might be a Ethiopian Yirgachaffe GR2 washed, but it's from a different farm and as such it is priced differently.

Even the timing for when you buy green coffee is important. I bought a pallet of a bean (a ton) and then the same lot number was 20% more expensive on the next pallet the following month because I did not forward contract.

Most of the suppliers who offer green beans to home roasters range very good (even go so far as to say excellent) grade coffees. These can be unique, high quality beans from small farms or microlots.

If you have ever tried to open jute bags (sometimes it is very fiddly and frustrating), scoop and weigh beans into a package, then seal, label, prepare the box, label, ship, etc. then you might realize this is a VERY time consuming and labor intensive activity. This labor effort needs to be accounted on top of the high grade beans you are purchasing.

In my mind, you are getting a damn good deal when you purchase green beans from the above mentioned providers - I still don't know how they do it for the price actually.
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Koffee Kosmo on 17/10/2011, 10:32 PM
The last lot of beans I purchased was from My Cuppa
I trusted Jeff to pick the 5 best in stock of different types/regions
So far I have only roasted one of those so far

I must say though that I have quite a few kilos of beans available and I will give apologies from now as I am running down my stash
And that means no more for approx 6 months

KK
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Bean Flying on 17/10/2011, 10:38 PM
...
And that means no more for approx 6 months
KK

I trust you have signed that statement in blood  ;D I was reducing mine down nicely then the opportunity to buy 5kg of Geisha cropped up  8)

Don't ask Colin it's better you don't know the price/kg but it is over 3 times the most I have paid for green ever.  :o
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Brett H on 17/10/2011, 10:45 PM
I trust you have signed that statement in blood  ;D I was reducing mine down nicely then the opportunity to buy 5kg of Geisha cropped up  8)

Don't ask Colin it's better you don't know the price/kg but it is over 3 times the most I have paid for green ever.  :o

My wife who rarely drinks coffee is convinced that JBM is her favorite  :o. Now that's some serious dollars and I prefer Yirg!!!   My wfe rarely drinks coffee!
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Koffee Kosmo on 17/10/2011, 10:55 PM
My wife who rarely drinks coffee is convinced that JBM is her favorite  :o. Now that's some serious dollars and I prefer Yirg!!!   My wfe rarely drinks coffee!

She has good taste  :-*

I trust you have signed that statement in blood  ;D I was reducing mine down nicely then the opportunity to buy 5kg of Geisha cropped up  8)



Yea
Famous last words
That promise will probably be broken by the allure of a bean I cant resist  :-*

KK
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Brett H on 17/10/2011, 11:03 PM
I bought some of the Columbian decaf from BeanGrean today.  I've tried both of Neil's decafs and am wondering if anyone has a lead on another decaf I could give a go. Neil's Mexican Decaf is my favorite thus far with the Columbian a close second.  I'm not a CS member so getting DecafWow Greens is not possible.  Who else has a green decaf I could try?
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: coffeehorse on 18/10/2011, 12:35 AM
http://www.beangreen.com.au/product-info.php?pid172.html
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Koffee Kosmo on 18/10/2011, 01:19 AM
I bought some of the Columbian decaf from BeanGrean today.  I've tried both of Neil's decafs and am wondering if anyone has a lead on another decaf I could give a go. Neil's Mexican Decaf is my favorite thus far with the Columbian a close second.  I'm not a CS member so getting DecafWow Greens is not possible.  Who else has a green decaf I could try?

We have some water process Colombian Decaf in the KK shop
http://koffeekosmo.com/Green-Beans/View-all-products.html

KK
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Brett H on 18/10/2011, 08:00 AM
Thanks guys... both great suggestions!
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Brett H on 20/10/2011, 10:59 PM
Received my order from Bean Green today in the usual record time and excellent packaging...but wait.... There's more!!!  This awesome retailer read this very thread and threw in a large sample pack of the Brazil Daterra Opus 1 low caffeine variety: as suggested by Coffeehorse.  I've roasted some this afternoon and couldn't wait to try them.  The verdict: I have a new favorite decaf.  Thank you so much Bean Green (Brendan) for your thoughtful generosity, brilliant range of quality greens and outstanding service time after time.
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: colinwen on 22/10/2011, 10:49 PM
Thanks everyone for reply my question about the price.
I am happy to hear the real dealer or who knows what the cost.
Maybe I just need to appreciate more about all the dealer who offer the good and high quality green bean.

Thanks again for everyone's sharing.

Colin
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Divey on 30/10/2011, 12:40 PM
This is my first post after being informed of this Forum by Vinitasse.  Good work.  :)

The first thing I like about this Forum is you can actually talk about your grean bean suppliers.  ;)

I'm only new to roasting and have collected about 18 different beans to roast and am enjoying the experience immensely.

I have a looked around at some of the expensive beans and was rather shocked to see the price of the Jamaican Blue Mountain. Anyway, I found these folks and also found their price much much cheaper than others. Check it out. http://www.jamaicacoffee.com.au/  They only have the one green bean that you can purchase and it is $79.00 per kilo including free postage which is much better than other suppliers prices on the JBM. The kilo that I purchased even came with a certificate of authentication.  :)
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Bean Flying on 30/10/2011, 01:34 PM
Post approved but it does read a little like a paid advitorial  ;) No problems with discussing suppliers of all sorts be they beans or gear but overt spruiking on non sponsors is still frowned on.

On JBM there is a lot of other beans for a whole lot less $ I would rather be drinking and roasting too.  :)
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Divey on 30/10/2011, 01:53 PM
I have absolutely no association with JBM coffee whatsoever other than the fact I bought one kilo of green beans off them.  :(
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Bean Flying on 30/10/2011, 04:12 PM
If I had thought you were advertising for them I would have used the edit button on you.

As AM pointed out we do get plenty of kopi luwak or promo posters from first posts and we haven't had a good chinese tamper supplier get through for quite a while.

Don't stress about it as we don't use the shoot first policy here  :coffee2:
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Divey on 30/10/2011, 04:31 PM
Copy, received and understood.
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Divey on 30/10/2011, 05:47 PM
Thanks for that BF, didn't even know what kopi luwak was.  ::) I somehow don't think I'll be in the market for something that has traveled the brown highway. That's enough to make one chunder.
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Koffee Kosmo on 30/10/2011, 06:07 PM
Thanks for that BF, didn't even know what kopi luwak was.  ::) I somehow don't think I'll be in the market for something that has traveled the brown highway. That's enough to make one chunder.

Welcome Divey
You need to see the movie The Bucket List  (http://lifetofullest.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/bucket-list.jpg)
Now that will give you a good laugh especially the last 5 minutes as they touch on the Kopi Luwak subject that describes your interpretation to a T

KK
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: colinwen on 03/12/2011, 05:53 PM
Just like to follow up the topic about Jamaica Blue mountain.
I read some article about no all the bean label as "Jamaica Blue mountain" really come from Jamaica Blue mountain.
Some of them blend part with JBM, some just tasted close to JBM (prob central American origin).

Few days ago, I just chat with one of my friend about the JBM is pretty expensive one.
Its around 80 bucks per kilo compared to other good and famous one only 15-20 bucks per kilo.
Two days ago, I received a gift from him as the celebration of I finish my exit-seminar of my study.
Its a pre-roast one, but been told only 1-2 weeks old.

I have tried four different set up for the shots. Two espresso, two with cappuccino.
I have to say, they are not as great as I image. (or I did not have a expert's palate).

Some cocoa/chocolate after mouth flavour like El Salvador and Tanzania in my experience.
Balanced body and aromas...
But...I wont pay 19 bucks for 100 gram. (four times more expensive than other average one).

It is from www.jamaicablue.com.au
I have read their website, it seems like they are 100% JBM single origin.
I might go to the local shop to try their pro machine made.

At least good news is their 2011 Barista champion (only internal of their franchise) is at our city (castletown, Townsville).
I might have the chance to taste the champion made JBM coffee^^
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Brett H on 03/12/2011, 06:06 PM
A champion barista at Castletown?  Give me strength!!! Last year when I went to Castletown there was really only Coffee Clud to choose from.  Are you telling me that I didn't look hard enough??? Could the Brasserie be hiding a remarkable talent?  Please do tell!
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: UNM on 03/12/2011, 07:16 PM
It is true, the winner of the foodco barista championship this year was from jamaica blue in castletown.
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Brett H on 03/12/2011, 09:20 PM
It is true, the winner of the foodco barista championship this year was from jamaica blue in castletown.

I wonder how long they've been there.  I'll have ,y spies check it out.
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: colinwen on 04/12/2011, 01:39 AM
@Bret H
Not too long.
The castletown just extend the space this year, I will say 5 to 6 month now?!
They have one more corridor, and a big "Big W" in the new space.
BTW, can also anyone can help me to confirm the JBM from Jamaica Blue is a real JBM?

Otherwise its quite pricy.

Cheers
Colin 
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Divey on 04/12/2011, 09:57 AM
Hmmmm, getting a little interesting.

The coffee that I purchased from http://www.jamaicacoffee.com.au/ comes with a copy of a Foreign Importers Registration Certificate stating that they are being supplied with coffee from Mavis Bank & Blue Mountain Coffee Venture. Now if you Google that, I'm pretty sure that the JBM would be genuine.  :thumb:

It's a little interesting that I purchased the JBM in mid October, 2011 and the certificate is valid from 9th day of August, 2010 to the 31st day of July, 2011. Don't know what's going on there.  :question: :question: I wonder if they still have a current permit.  :question:

Can't help with the other website and I can't see whereby you can purchase green beans off them anyway.
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: mycuppa on 04/12/2011, 10:48 AM
One explanation is that it's absolutely normal to see a considerable time lag between green beans being exported, shipped, stored in a roaster's warehouse and then finally roasted.

As an example, they may well have exchanged a contract for purchase in the period noted on the certificate yet the greens may have arrived in one or many shipments thereafter. For traceability, the dates on the certificate are probably aligned with the coffee you received. A roaster could have green beans sitting in their warehouse for anywhere up to 18 months - however this it the upper end of a typical scale and I'd assume with JBM being quite expensive, it does not move in large volumes thus their stock may last *many* months.
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: colinwen on 13/12/2011, 11:14 PM
Just have another order from "Bean Green" again.
And one friend share the order with me (but I bought most of them).

Then got a Christmas gift pack from Bean Green!!
I just like to say thanks for this gift pack.
I hope it wont make  "Bean Green" into trouble.
Thanks again!! :thumb:
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: ash on 10/01/2012, 08:03 PM
Back to where I get my greens from.... ;)

Most of mine have been from CS, but I have started getting more from Ministry Grounds and Bean Green. Unfortunatley the stash is still rather large at 138 kilos (and 41 different kinds of beans), so it'll be some time before I buy some more greens.  :angel: For me, the postal service is the biggest hurdle to timely arrival, becuase I'm outside of a capital city  ::) 

Time to get back to roasting on the Hottop... :coffee2:
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Divey on 10/01/2012, 09:49 PM
Back to where I get my greens from.... ;)

Most of mine have been from CS, but I have started getting more from Ministry Grounds and Bean Green. Unfortunatley the stash is still rather large at 138 kilos (and 41 different kinds of beans), so it'll be some time before I buy some more greens.  :angel: For me, the postal service is the biggest hurdle to timely arrival, becuase I'm outside of a capital city  ::) 

Time to get back to roasting on the Hottop... :coffee2:

Are you serious  :question: 138 kilograms in stock.  You must be far more than just a home roaster.
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Brett H on 10/01/2012, 11:49 PM
OMG.... That's like 400 Hottop roasts... Ash, you need a bigger roaster!  How about a cement truck with a jet engine aimed at it for maximum capacity!
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: ash on 11/01/2012, 11:11 AM
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You must be far more than just a home roaster.

yep - a compulsive hoader of things I like  :-[  The stash just kind of grew on me while I was OS with work for a few months. Not much else to do on downtime apart from surfing the web, finding coffee and ordering it. Or thinking about an upgrade machine. Or dreaming of real coffee....
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Brett H on 12/01/2012, 12:35 AM
yep - a compulsive hoader of things I like  :-[  The stash just kind of grew on me while I was OS with work for a few months. Not much else to do on downtime apart from surfing the web, finding coffee and ordering it. Or thinking about an upgrade machine. Or dreaming of real coffee....

Fair enough mate!  I can see how that could happen and what better well deserved treat than the deferred gratification of hobby nirvana!  Still think you may need to dream of a bigger Hottop!  I have been whittling my stash down from a modest 30kg to a mere 10kg so that I can order more often and take full advantage of the BeanGreen free delivery for $50+ orders.  Accidentally told a mate that it was 50kg+ for free delivery and that we as home roasters had no problems filling that amount.  I corrected myself with his look of disbelief but your mates Ash would probably believe you!
Title: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: GaryatGala on 13/10/2012, 01:28 AM
i alternate between CS and Bean Green.
Title: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Divey on 13/10/2012, 05:50 AM
Green Bean ('cause their near to me), Danes (they are closer), Ministry Grounds, Bean Green and CS.
Title: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: UNM on 13/10/2012, 08:01 AM
I used to buy from Coffeesnobs, but had a difference of opinion with the owner over the importance of temperature as a variable in espresso extraction. One statement in particular caused me to reevaluate my purchasing behaviour.

I buy from bean green and mycuppa these days. Excellent product/service/price, can buy in 1kg lots and treated with respect.
Title: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Divey on 13/10/2012, 08:33 AM
I used to buy from Coffeesnobs, but had a difference of opinion with the owner over the importance of temperature as a variable in espresso extraction. One statement in particular caused me to reevaluate my purchasing behaviour.

I buy from bean green and mycuppa these days. Excellent product/service/price, can buy in 1kg lots and treated with respect.

 ;) ;) Buying 2
Title: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Divey on 13/10/2012, 08:47 AM
I probably would have bought off Mycuppa, however, when I log on, I only get to see three greens available. Am I doing something wrong.  :question: :question:
Title: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: mycuppa on 13/10/2012, 10:08 AM
I probably would have bought off Mycuppa, however, when I log on, I only get to see three greens available. Am I doing something wrong.  :question: :question:

Apologies Divey - we are not really in the business of green bean selling (it's a long story). We only put up a few basics to stem the high number of email requests we would typically receive.

However, UNM lives very close and pops in at convenient times (after the madness of the daytime) and he gets access to anything we have on the deck in whatever quantities he needs.

I buy from bean green and mycuppa these days. Excellent product/service/price, can buy in 1kg lots and treated with respect.

Respect ?? here I was feeling bad I had not grunted more than 2 words the other night - the Joper was on and running in manual mode - requiring more arms and legs that I had available.........Just as well my wonderful (and very understanding) wife likes to chat.......

Title: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Divey on 13/10/2012, 10:47 AM
Apologies Divey - we are not really in the business of green bean selling (it's a long story). We only put up a few basics to stem the high number of email requests we would typically receive.

However, UNM lives very close and pops in at convenient times (after the madness of the daytime) and he gets access to anything we have on the deck in whatever quantities he needs.


Perfect, so we send our orders to UNM for completion.  ;) ;)
Title: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: UNM on 13/10/2012, 11:59 AM
Perfect, so we send our orders to UNM for completion.  ;) ;)
:thumb:

That ought  to work.

You may have to wait a month or two until my next visit. Also I haven't a clue what Jeff has on hand until I get there (I do love variety and surprises). I got an Indian surprise this time.


Jeff, I know greens aren't your business and I do very much appreciate your consideration in providing for my roasting habit. You certainly won't get rich on my paltry purchases
Title: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: EricS on 31/10/2012, 01:30 AM
I've been out on a hunt for green beans these days and here's a list of places you could buy some greens (in Melbourne):
- Coffeesnobs (is rather obvious)
- Cottle on Coventry (http://cottlecoffee.com.au/) - I've had the opportunity to meet Richard Cottle and it was a delightful experience. Their prices of greens however are not advertised.
- The Coffee Company (http://www.coffeecompany.com.au/)

I really wish Jeff would sell more greens and allow pickups. =)
At most times, the postage itself costs half the price of the greens, if not more. That's my issue ordering online from Coffeesnobs and other places. Coffeesnobs does allow pickups but they're just too far for me to drive to.
Title: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Dry bean. on 31/10/2012, 03:31 AM
I've been out on a hunt for green beans these days and here's a list of places you could buy some greens (in Melbourne):
- Coffeesnobs (is rather obvious)
- Cottle on Coventry (http://cottlecoffee.com.au/) - I've had the opportunity to meet Richard Cottle and it was a delightful experience. Their prices of greens however are not advertised.
- The Coffee Company (http://www.coffeecompany.com.au/)

I really wish Jeff would sell more greens and allow pickups. =)
At most times, the postage itself costs half the price of the greens, if not more. That's my issue ordering online from Coffeesnobs and other places. Coffeesnobs does allow pickups but they're just too far for me to drive to.
Try Beangreen Eric, free shipping on orders over $50, prices very competitive, and the quality is equally as good as other suppliers. :)
Title: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Seeya Latte on 31/10/2012, 12:09 PM
I know it's off topic somewhat but how coincidental - I work only a 10min walk away from Cottle on Coventry here in Sth Melb and a work colleague who loves their coffee only yesterday brought me back from his lunch walk, 250g of their Espresso Supremo (?) roasted so I can see for myself...although no roast date on the packaging  ::) - fingers crossed it's fresh at least
Title: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: lemoo on 31/10/2012, 12:40 PM
+1 for beangreen

brendan always has a lovely stock of greens that causes me headaches when trying to decide what to add to my cart :(
Title: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Paolo5 on 06/02/2013, 05:25 PM
Very happy to have found Beangreen. (Thanks, Brett)

I have just made 5 doubles of Monsooned Malabar from Beangreen with my "new" Caravel. I had 3 of them. I swear that they would have to be the most godly of shots that I have tried to date....
Title: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Kelsey on 06/02/2013, 06:38 PM
Awesome Paolo! Brendan really looks after us Cremas!
Title: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Brett H on 06/02/2013, 10:27 PM
Very happy to have found Beangreen. (Thanks, Brett)

I have just made 5 doubles of Monsooned Malabar from Beangreen with my "new" Caravel. I had 3 of them. I swear that they would have to be the most godly of shots that I have tried to date....

Brilliant!  My pleasure mate  :thumb:

It's a slippery slope isn't it!  One moment you are pinching the kids popcorn maker, then the wife's bread maker, then the Turbo oven... where will it end?  I even toyed with the idea of converting the cement mixer into a mega-roaster!  No Jet engines for sale on eBay to power it sadly  :rofl:
Title: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: bcspark on 04/04/2013, 09:46 AM
Hi,I have recently made my first order frm Ministry Grounds.Delivery was made and satchel opened and I had greens everywhere.Made contact with Neil and his reaction was to replace order.After much thought I stressed that my loss did not allow me to accept his offer and 1kilo would cover my loss.10 minutes into first roast of the Bolivia Vincente Paye another delivery arrived ,replacement order plus sample bag of roasted ,same bean ,with a note enjoy this coffee while your roast is resting. I could not let this go unrecognized and so I share with you this unique experience. My confirmation to Neil was my continued support of Ministry Grounds Coffee
Title: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Brett H on 04/04/2013, 11:39 AM
Great to hear BC!  Thank you for sharing and please let us know how the roast turns out! 
Title: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: bcspark on 10/04/2013, 07:32 AM
BrettH , have finished both roasts and must report Ministry Grounds roast of the Vincente Paye to be the best to give out the flavour best
Title: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: Brett H on 10/04/2013, 08:50 AM
Good to know BC.  Isn't it great how well our sponsors know their product!  Also, what a great experience to receive a roast profile that works for you model and experiment off!
Title: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: bcspark on 30/05/2013, 08:27 AM
Had a quiet look at my stash and decided to use some of the 100plus kilos before I repurchase .
Title: Re: Where do you get your greens from
Post by: iamavapollard on 05/07/2016, 06:00 PM
I have buy green-beans form https://I promise to read the site rules and be a good forum member dot >:/

Mate, we can google ya favorite company so just let us know the name and don't post links to commercial sites.  Especially when the ones who sponsor this site are far, far better!