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« Reply #50 on: 16/07/2012, 07:42 PM »
Oooh interesting!

I've always been pedantic about wiping out with a dry cloth... time to try something different!
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« Reply #51 on: 16/07/2012, 08:00 PM »
Better try it out. I'm a wiper

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« Reply #52 on: 16/07/2012, 08:18 PM »
I do the unholy "wipe out stray grinds with my finger".
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« Reply #53 on: 16/07/2012, 08:32 PM »
my hypothesis for this is that it lines the basket with a fine film of moisture, 'trapping' the grinds and leading to a finer extraction. 

Or perhaps it just liberates a little heat from the sides of the basket providing a 'sticky' surface for the coffee that comes into contact with it - again leading to a tighter extraction

Thoughts anyone?

Interesting.

Perhaps the moisture traps and swells the coffee on the outside puck, but not the inside has something to do with it also.
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« Reply #54 on: 18/07/2012, 08:50 PM »
Tried the damp basket approach. Was getting a bit of spray action on the naked then went the wet basket and no more spray ? Who knows, could have just arsed it. One less process though so I might stick to wet wipe/no dry - because its sooooo time consuming to dry the basket  :D

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« Reply #55 on: 21/07/2012, 12:02 PM »
Awesome AM - out with the 2 mm shim then :D :D

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« Reply #56 on: 21/07/2012, 12:32 PM »
i've never actually tried that before to see how much space is between the puck and shower screen

what would the best way to determine that space be?
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« Reply #57 on: 21/07/2012, 12:38 PM »
Just use coffee IMO :thumb:

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« Reply #58 on: 21/07/2012, 02:32 PM »
I also use a convex tamper
Although both a flat and convex profile tamper face give good results, I find the convex to give better head space when the PF is locked in

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« Reply #59 on: 21/07/2012, 05:49 PM »
why do blonds like tilt steering?

Better head space..
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« Reply #60 on: 21/07/2012, 06:50 PM »
Ok here is one for discussion. Ive just measured the distance from my seal to the edge of the screen. Its 9 mm. However, the screen is a bit odd in its construction. It has a lip of SS about 2.5 mm wide and the screen itself is concave in shape (deeper in the centre). Its a two part deal, behind the screen is hefty chunk of brass that comes off with the screen which is then separated and cleaned etc.... So my question is, where do you take the measurement from ? The centre ( deepest part of the screen ) or the out lip ? If its the outer lip I'll have to drop the basket level 11 mm down from the top which isn't going to leave much in the basket. There is a good 1.5-2 mm difference from outside to the centre. So a fait imprint of the outer ring is probably fine ? What do you reckon ?

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« Reply #61 on: 21/07/2012, 07:09 PM »
Ok here is one for discussion. Ive just measured the distance from my seal to the edge of the screen. Its 9 mm. However, the screen is a bit odd in its construction. It has a lip of SS about 2.5 mm wide and the screen itself is concave in shape (deeper in the centre). Its a two part deal, behind the screen is hefty chunk of brass that comes off with the screen which is then separated and cleaned etc.... So my question is, where do you take the measurement from ? The centre ( deepest part of the screen ) or the out lip ? If its the outer lip I'll have to drop the basket level 11 mm down from the top which isn't going to leave much in the basket. There is a good 1.5-2 mm difference from outside to the centre. So a fait imprint of the outer ring is probably fine ? What do you reckon ?
I'm in the no contact between puck and screen school so would do the 5 cent test under the centre screw. :)
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« Reply #62 on: 21/07/2012, 07:27 PM »
I did that a few weeks ago DB and dropped my dose, a lot. I now have it where I get a slight imprint of the outer ring of the screen. I'm pretty happy with the results but interested in what others think too.

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« Reply #63 on: 22/07/2012, 09:13 AM »
Remind me mate, are you using a naked?  If the shot looks good with a naked and the puck looks good then I think you've cracked it.  Do you want to borrow a VST?  They are completely transparent in regards to all these issues (to the point of being a PITA) as you saw at my place. 
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« Reply #64 on: 22/07/2012, 10:58 AM »
I have a naked ( thanks to AM) but rarely use it. Diagnostics only :D. As for the VST, Well,  :-X :-X. But I should try a bigger basket just for fun eh


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« Reply #65 on: 22/07/2012, 11:21 AM »
I'm thinking of getting a VST basket off Greg while he has them on special.
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« Reply #66 on: 22/07/2012, 11:56 AM »
I have a naked ( thanks to AM) but rarely use it. Diagnostics only :D. As for the VST, Well,  :-X :-X. But I should try a bigger basket just for fun eh

I can give you a triple basket but its ridged
Now if your tamper fits in it it yours

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« Reply #67 on: 22/07/2012, 01:00 PM »
Sweet KK :thumb:

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« Reply #68 on: 22/07/2012, 02:45 PM »
I'm thinking of getting a VST basket off Greg while he has them on special.

I grabbed a second when they went on special so that when I do multiples I can work two portafilters.  Great value while they are on special.  I couldn't live without mine!!

Go on DX grab one... You know you want too!  ;)
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« Reply #69 on: 22/07/2012, 02:50 PM »
What size did you get?
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« Reply #70 on: 22/07/2012, 02:51 PM »
What size did you get?

18g and I had Greg check that my tamper would fit.  Great service!
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« Reply #71 on: 22/07/2012, 02:53 PM »
That's one reason why I want one, because I know he!ll keep the measurement of it on file until I get a tamper.
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