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Espresso Machines / Re: La Marzocco commercial machines
« Last post by admin on Today at 09:10 AM »
Thanks for that Jeff (& the warning); yes was meaning 3-group.

Ok so given their (L.M's) sensitivities, are there any other brands out there that you'd really recommend - do you have any view on ECM?

Also, in your view is there much benefit in looking at one of the 'extra, extra' premium machines - eg Synesso, Slayer?

cheers
A
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Espresso Machines / Re: La Marzocco commercial machines
« Last post by Brett H on 21/01/2018, 10:24 PM »
Jeff... You da man!
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Espresso Machines / Re: La Marzocco commercial machines
« Last post by mycuppa on 21/01/2018, 08:49 PM »
Hello A.
I can assist with some advice.

The FB80 is basically old school and not really a highly sort after machine for cafe duty. The original Linea still demands attention and respect.

The newer Linea PB is the machine to aim for as it’s got all the essential barista features like shot timers and can be easily upgraded with gravimetric scales if one was so inclined.

The GB5 is perhaps the best value in the used market. It has shot timers and modern features in terms of configuring the setup of the machine temps and shots. Careful as some have been flogged.

So, go for the newer Linea PB, then GB5 then Linea as a very basic workhorse.

Now the bad news..........time to bend over. They are not cheap and 2nd hand they hold their values high.

I just bought a 2nd hand GB5 3 group and spent $5k rebuilding, powder coating and upgrading the steam boiler element and that was with a top bloke that did me a really good deal on the rebuild works.

Don’t buy a 2nd hand LM without knowing the history.......where it’s been and the service.

One of my customers spent $16k on a brand new Linea PB and as they are in a bad water area of Victoria, the machine needs a new boiler (ph levels corroded the stainless) and $6k spent on rebuilding. Nearly everything inside was replaced after 18 months.

Basically LM machines used outside of capital cities where the water of filtration servicing is less than ideal will be a ticking time bomb.

The average LM needs $2k spent on it every year. Try going without and it costs you $4k the following year........no escape.

As you have not specified a 2 or 3 group, you can expect to pay $10k for a good condition or recently rebuilt used machine and up to say $17k for a new machine. Actual prices are not something I wish to publish on the forum.

A, if this machine is going into Adelaide, then I would caution your friend and consider something else that does not have stainless boilers. Or at the very least run 2 seperate filter systems and change these every 6 weeks. Water is the cause of thousands of $$$ is repair work on LM’s.

Everything on an LM is almost 3 times the price of other manufacturers parts.

Just like a Ferrari or Lamborghini, ownership of an LM comes at a premium.

They make beautiful coffee.......indisputable!

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Espresso Machines / La Marzocco commercial machines
« Last post by admin on 21/01/2018, 07:23 PM »
HI guys, just doing a bit of initial research for a friend (who's quite partial to La.Marzocco machines) - does anyone know much about the benefits (& disadvantages) of the Linea and the fb80?

Also pricing? Have looked at the websites and obviously they don't list prices - presumably 'on application', but if anyone knows what a new one of either of these is going for, or what you could get a good second-hand one for, that would be great

cheers
A
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have you guys ever heard about the Huky roaster? Thoughts? http://www.thepeoplesroast.com/huky/

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I don’t have any personal experience, but by all accounts it’s a great little roaster. Mr Lee provides very good service and lots of options for the roaster and it’s still one of the best value small drum roasters around. There is a Huky forum as well as lots of stuff on Reddit about it so I suggest you go have a read of those resources if you’re considering one.
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I live in the USA, so not sure the 220v is an option. Let me look some more.

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Ah right, the 220v version won’t be an option for you then. I’m sure you’d still find a new 1600+ better than your previous experience, but it will depend a lot on a variety of things such as the consistency of your power supply and the environment you’ll be roasting in.

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Unless you’re in North America I’d actually recommend a Behmor (the 220v version is superior to the 110v). The 1600+ is much improved over the old 1600, and not just in functionality either.
I live in the USA, so not sure the 220v is an option. Let me look some more.

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have you guys ever heard about the Huky roaster? Thoughts? http://www.thepeoplesroast.com/huky/

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sounds like what you really want is a Sonofresco, but you don’t want to pay that much.

LOL, you are spot on!

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A KKTO, Coretto or something similar are really your only budget options, but you have to be happy to take on a project obviously. A Coretto is probably the simplest and cheapest to build, and I believe you can get bread makers big enough to roast close to 1kg at a time. It sounds like what you really want is a Sonofresco, but you don’t want to pay that much.

Unless you’re in North America I’d actually recommend a Behmor (the 220v version is superior to the 110v). The 1600+ is much improved over the old 1600, and not just in functionality either. I’m sure that if you cared for it as recommended you’d get good service from a Behmor. I’ve had my 1600+ for over two years and have done 200 roasts on it. I clean it religiously after every 5 roasts and keep it under a cover in the garage. I’ve had no issues and it’s working as well today (roasting as I type this) as it did the day I opened it.
With the years of experience you already have I’m sure you’d get great results once you familiarise yourself with it again.
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