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I saw on Thursday Island a La Piccola Cecilia (only remembered it because there was a tiny young lass named Cecilia in the Orchestra) and the brew was good as was the look and operation of the machine.  Apart from that I know nosthink.

Edit.... Ooo Yeah, Owner said it was a hassle free machine and they'd had used it in a busy shop.
Yes I actually agree with both of you
They will probably go for a better capsule machine but with a better milk dispenser system - something like a seperate milk fridge system

The current central canister arrangement can and often has milk spoil

Any recommendations on that style of machine ?


Thanks for the shout-out Brett.

KK, I'm afraid Brett is 100% correct.

In fact, a Bean to Cup machine (Super-Auto) may require more cleaning and attention compared to a Nespresso machine. There are more components and functional tasks in a super-auto to prepare a beverage. Sometimes, incidents occur from people fiddling with settings trying to get the machine to make a coffee "their way" - of course, modern systems can lock out fiddlers, but it doesn't stop them trying.

Whenever milk is involved, it's a problem waiting to happen and you won't have to wait long - as you know, milk and heat don't go together without some form of immediate cleansing.

SuperAutos are getting more intelligent with their dispensing and cleaning cycles to automate much of the task, but it's still a disciplined activity that someone needs to perform. Tablets for detergents (weekly, or depending upon usage), powder/liquids for de-scaling (monthly or whenever it asks) and daily milk system sanitation.

The Achilles heel of any SuperAuto is the grind, dose and tamp mechanisms. These need to be properly cleaned periodically - sometimes it's not always an easy or simple task for a user because of the way the components are internal within the system.

Having said all that - if the system is cleaned and setup properly, the resultant beverages can be remarkably delicious - far superior to Crapsules.
Thanks for the input Brett
They have 2 pod machines installed now
Thing that urkes them is the milk canister and I need to clean it as part of my job
If they get another machine the cleaning maintenance will fall on me or staff

This is the model machine they have now below

Absolutely look at renting especially if service is included.  Anyone I know who has operated these bigger commercial SA's has said that without fastidious daily cleaning they're dead in the water!  So.… the people buying must have folks ready and keen to keep up the cleaning/general maintenance of these machines.  I know it sounds less-exciting but would a couple of Pod Machines in each office not be cheaper and more cost-effective?  I know a great roasting company that does the pods:
Thank you for the replies  :thumb:

Had a look at the Carimali offerings and they look well made
Soft Soft Plus , Mya , Optima & Armonia Touch
I will print out the info on those models

For this company and at the price range it may be best for them to rent if that option is available

New Here? Drop in and Say Hi. / Re: New Member
« Last post by K_Bean_Coffee on 28/06/2018, 06:51 PM »
Decided to join the forum with the interest in learning more about making great coffee.
Currently looking to upgrade my VBM Domobar Super. Also considering having a go at roasting! :)
Hi Warmtone.
For roasting you’ll find my latest Blog post on beans pretty useful.
Enjoy it :)
New Here? Drop in and Say Hi. / Re: I'm new here...
« Last post by K_Bean_Coffee on 28/06/2018, 06:50 PM »
Welcome to the newbies.
Enjoy the forum :)
New Here? Drop in and Say Hi. / Re: Hello Everyone
« Last post by K_Bean_Coffee on 28/06/2018, 06:49 PM »
Welcome Harriet.
The get starters info please take a look at my “learn” section and my blog :)
Auto.... can’t help with that one.
I would go Googling and see what you can find in the way of reviews.
Good luck :)
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