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« on: 06/06/2015, 12:37 PM »
Ok I've traded up!

Sold my Gene Cafe and bought a Behmor 1600 plus instead

From all accounts you get better consistency in the roast, plus greater control over the variables, combined with a built in afterburner, and a significantly larger roast size (400 instead of 300gm although in theory I found that the GC often struggled to get even results when loaded to capacity)

So the new unit arrives Monday / Tuesday courtesy of the other mob, and I've had a look at a few YouTube clips

But has anyone had any experience with this beast ?

And what's the best way to approach manual roast profiles ?

Best,

Patrick


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« Reply #1 on: 06/06/2015, 02:54 PM »
Sorry mate I've no idea as I have the old version.
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« Reply #2 on: 06/06/2015, 04:11 PM »
Sorry mate I've no idea as I have the old version.

Never thought about the mod ?

What's your favorite feature /  aspect of your machine ?
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« Reply #3 on: 06/06/2015, 07:10 PM »

Ok I've traded up!

Sold my Gene Cafe and bought a Behmor 1600 plus instead

From all accounts you get better consistency in the roast, plus greater control over the variables, combined with a built in afterburner, and a significantly larger roast size (400 instead of 300gm although in theory I found that the GC often struggled to get even results when loaded to capacity)

So the new unit arrives Monday / Tuesday courtesy of the other mob, and I've had a look at a few YouTube clips

But has anyone had any experience with this beast ?

And what's the best way to approach manual roast profiles ?

Best,

Patrick

Hi Pat.

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts as a newbie on this machine when you find your feet.

I've been thinking about it for a while and would like to know what I'd be getting myself in for.

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« Reply #4 on: 06/06/2015, 08:44 PM »
My favourite feature of the older Behmor is its ease of use.  350grams, 1lb setting and hit cool just on second crack.  Reliable and good.
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« Reply #5 on: 07/06/2015, 04:55 PM »
I really enjoyed using my gene cafe but I found that the glass walked drum could cause tipping or scolding of the beans - I did manage to get around this a bit by doing a relatively low temperature ramp to first crack, followed by coasting for a minute or two after that

Love my coretto set up and I get great results every time - but it's definitely an outdoor activity and during Melbourne winter that's not always as enticing as it sounds

Looking forward to firing up the Behmor !

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« Reply #6 on: 09/06/2015, 09:09 PM »
Hi Patrick

I have the old version but installed the "plus" control panel upgrade. I think the improvements are well worth it, especially when you have to contend with cold weather. In days gone by I sometimes struggled to reach 2nd crack within the normal roast time (300 g batch using 1 lb/400 g setting), especially if I was roasting outside on a chilly day. However the plus version allows you to extend the roast time indefinitely; by pressing the C button you get an additional 3 min 10 s roasting time.

As for making use of the manual setting of roast power, I've pretty much stuck to the 1 lb-P1 profile using 300 g of beans. If left to its own devices, the P1 profile is supposed to be 100% power for the entire roast period. When my roasts reach rolling 1st crack, I press the P4 button and this reduces power to 75%. I let it run at this level till start of 2nd crack and then cool. I have heard of others dropping power to 50% or lower at 1st crack, but haven't tried this lately with the cold weather (worried about stalling the roast). I'm not on top of the science behind it all, however I read that dropping the roast power this way allows you to stretch the roast time between 1st and 2nd crack. With the previous version some achieved this by propping open the door for a period of time. Being able to alter the roast power in the plus version seems a great improvement.

Good luck!

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« Reply #7 on: 09/06/2015, 09:48 PM »
Oh great advice, thanks Dan

I'm expecting my roaster to arrive tomorrow or Thursday latest - so I look forward to putting it through its paces

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« Reply #8 on: 12/06/2015, 02:12 PM »
I really enjoyed using my gene cafe but I found that the glass walked drum could cause tipping or scolding of the beans - I did manage to get around this a bit by doing a relatively low temperature ramp to first crack, followed by coasting for a minute or two after that

Love my coretto set up and I get great results every time - but it's definitely an outdoor activity and during Melbourne winter that's not always as enticing as it sounds

Looking forward to firing up the Behmor !

P
You,ve had a go roasting on the Behmor, how do you find the quality in the cup compared to the coretto?
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« Reply #9 on: 16/06/2015, 01:13 AM »
Look the quality is very similar -  what I like about the coretto is that you can back off on the heat until the colour change in the beans kicks in, and then ramp it up a bit without scolding the beans - and it's a good, industrial heat source which gets lovely flavours out of the roast !

I love the Behmor Plus as well and I know it's capable of making great coffee - but I still think it's a bit over designed for my liking

What I would like to see is manual time and temperature settings coz that's all I really need to roast - but I'm also mindful of the fact that I'm just getting started on the Behmor,  and that it's capable of getting really great results

Plus it's a complete all in one application with no fiddly bits - and I'm getting great results with no preheat and using the built in cool down cycle - so that's definitely a plus

And I can use it inside in a well ventilated space on a rainy day -  but that's not really an option with the coretto - which for me at least is really only an outside option
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« Reply #10 on: 18/06/2015, 09:22 PM »
Thanks Pat.
Was thinking of adding the Behmor to the roasting collection but was told enough is enough by the minister of finance, even though I pointed out that there is enough space on the bench to sit next to the twin corettos, FZRR700 baby roaster sampler and the KKTO.
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« Reply #11 on: 19/06/2015, 03:24 PM »
Hi Gary,

I sold my Gene Cafe then for an extra $70 I managed to pick up the Behmor Plus - and Im very happy with the roast results - very even and great for espresso, which is something I struggled with at times on the Gene Cafe

Four days post roast and my PNG Organic Naturals, and India Elephant Hills AA are drinking a treat!

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« Reply #12 on: 27/01/2016, 11:34 AM »
Seeing that this thread started a while ago ... I'm wondering what your extended experience of the Behmor+ is ?

The comment was made about it being particularly good for espresso, what about filter coffee??

I've started to come around to the idea of getting one in the near future, but I'm not quite convinced .... yet!
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« Reply #13 on: 28/01/2016, 07:22 PM »
Hi mate, I have the Behmor V1 and as a roaster for starting out it s fantastic.  I can only imagine that the plus is even better for tweak ability as your experience grows. 
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« Reply #14 on: 23/03/2016, 05:35 AM »
I think you just need to keep a constant eye on all the variables and log what you're doing to get very repeatable results and yes filter roast not a problem!

Even colour and consistency of roast is very readily achievable with the plus especially on the manual settings !
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