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« Reply #25 on: 30/03/2016, 10:56 PM »
I've got one on pre order through an Aussie distributed too. Can't wait.
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« Reply #26 on: 01/04/2016, 06:34 AM »
Wonder how it stacks up compared to a couple of behmor plus machines?

Would love to do a side by side comparison!

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« Reply #27 on: 19/08/2016, 06:40 PM »
Well the anticipation is starting to build. From what I have seen on the interwebz, It looks like I may receive this roaster sometime in October or November. I've been following the pre-order folks facestalking page with interest.

There has been a few niggles with the initial production machines, which hopefully will be sorted in the next lot of production machines. A lot of the niggles have made it into the users manual which has solutions. One of the more annoying reported niggles was an issue of beans popping out the front door. Apparently this was solved by ensuring the drum was fully forward in the roaster prior to roasting, and the was also a manufacturing solution in which the leading edge of the drum (originally chamfered) has been replaced by a straight edge. Here's hoping this solution makes it into the production models

Hopefully I get it before Christmas!! :coffee2:
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« Reply #28 on: 19/08/2016, 08:47 PM »
And hopefully we can all life vicariously through you :)
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« Reply #29 on: 20/08/2016, 01:35 AM »
I've got one on pre order too and am also hoping they sort some of the niggles out :) looking forward to it though. It's been a long wait


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« Reply #30 on: 21/08/2016, 06:17 PM »
Hi guys, I'm really interested to see how you go with this roaster.  Heating up of the electronics and pricey replacements is my main concern.  I hope I'm wrong.  Apart from that concern this is a little winner.  I saw it at MICE and was impressed.

I am holding out for a 1kg Behmor though.  I don't know when it will come but I'm told it will.

A 1 kg Gene Cafe is another option but that's not in Aus yet.

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« Reply #31 on: 24/08/2016, 09:54 PM »
Have seen and cupped quite a few roasts done on the bullet, Padre Noosa have one and are using it as a sample roaster and for small batch filter roasts with a good deal of success.  Few little issues, quite dirty how the chaff just falls out of the slot on the front of the machine and goes everywhere, needs a small amount of fluing or need to roast at an open door to disperse smoke, a couple of thermocouples is a positive upgrade to do oneself for more precise control/understanding of what is happening inside, add on software upgrade a must.
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« Reply #32 on: 26/08/2016, 03:59 PM »
Seeing as I'm a back patio roaster the chaff and smoke everywhere problem shouldn't be too much of an issue for me as long as I take wind direction into account!  ;D  I'd love to see an example of some of the Padre Noosa roast profiles, just to compare what they're doing against other Bullet users who have put a roast profile up on the FB page. Most of them seem to be profiles that are vastly different to the basic profiles that I've followed. I'm guessing a fair bit of that is down to local climate and taste preferences???

And I see now that Coffee Parts have pushed back delivery date to Q4. I knew that would be more the case compared to Q3 after reading the last Aillio Bullet news update that I received.

From the newsletter "now that we’re nearing the completion of our pre-order phase, it is time to begin looking forward to the next batch. Like the pre-orders, these machines will also be of a limited number, with a large chunk of the machines being reserved for our distributors in Australia, Singapore, Thailand, South Africa, and Japan." (19 Jul 2016)

Also the trier for the Bullet will be available soon for $USD49.00
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« Reply #33 on: 09/03/2017, 03:59 PM »
So have you guys managed to hang in there with your pre-orders? I know a few who have pulled out cause it's been a year since they dropped the cash... it's a shame.

My wife graciously has let me sink more money into this crazy hobby and I'll be looking forward to one of these roasters once they land...

A comment made by Chris of TC was that all Aillio need to do now is get it certified for import. Dunno where he got that info from, but probably ECA. I've tried to squeeze info out of ECA and Aillio, but no one is biting. Hopefully it arrives by Easter so I can play in the break!! but, history is against us given the multiple missed deadlines. In all my hassling, Taylor from Aillio has let me know much of the team only got back from holiday on the 1st of March, so I expect it'd be mighty tight if they managed to pull off getting them out the factory door and landing them before Easter. Mid year is more likely.

One upside to my niggling is that Aillio have tentatively answered that the 'modification program' would apply to Australians - that is, spare parts made available for purchase to try new ideas in order to feed it back to Aillio for possible improvements. I assume he says tentative as in Australia warranty is generally upheld by the importer (AFAIK), and so it's likely ECA would have to agree to sanctioned modifications. Fingers crossed.

One bloke in Denmark has already successfully routed a second probe into the exhaust line to measure exhaust temperature, which in my mind is a big win, as exhaust temps are a fantastic help in anticipating 1st crack, and other sorts of troubleshooting. I'm really hoping I won't have to wait until my warranty expires before doing a similar mod! The control board actually has two spare slots for probes, so Aillio obviously had the possibility of further temp measurement in mind when building the control board, which is excellent forward thinking.

Other ideas rumbling around is improving the method of chaff removal - apparently Aillio are actively working on that, but I'm particularly keen to determine if a minified cyclone system (small enough to attach to the roaster in place of the whole chaff collector assembly) would work, or if it would too much change the air-pressure of the fan. There are some maker-workshops around the place in Sydney, so once the bullet is in my little hands, I'll probably join up and get to 3D modelling and 3D printing to see what can be done.

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« Reply #34 on: 09/03/2017, 08:59 PM »
......it has been a long wait.  I guess on the up side it means that when they land they will be good, with early bugs ironed out.

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« Reply #35 on: 10/03/2017, 01:19 AM »
I must say I'm intrigued by this roaster and would love to get my hands on one to play with - but for now I run two Behmor Plus coffee roasters side by side and I'm.vwry happy with the results that I get from these shows up toaster ovens !
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« Reply #36 on: 10/03/2017, 10:48 AM »
I have up waiting a while ago and purchased a JYR 1kg gas roaster. Happy with the results I'm getting and I can roast back to back to supply the local cafes with it


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« Reply #37 on: 10/03/2017, 11:39 AM »
......it has been a long wait.  I guess on the up side it means that when they land they will be good, with early bugs ironed out.
One would hope so!
I've been following the owner group on facebook and it seems there has been a few bugs in assembly, poor efficiency of cooling etc. I recommend it to anyone considering the roaster as it also has community hot-fixes for these issues...

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« Reply #38 on: 14/03/2017, 01:06 PM »
Just under a year since I placed a preorder for it and I'm hoping it turns up sooner rather than later. Buy as K Bean said, hopefully all the bugs have been worked out and I can use it without any dramas.

In the mean time I may have to go and get some filters for the Hottop and give it a good clean.

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« Reply #39 on: 14/03/2017, 03:45 PM »
you have more patience than me - must mean that the units are in demand though!
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« Reply #40 on: 15/03/2017, 06:27 AM »
Not sure if it's patience, or a shear bloody mindedness! That or the fact that a 1kg roaster would be a bloody handy size for me :)
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« Reply #41 on: 22/03/2017, 08:55 AM »
........such a long wait.  It had better be really GOOD :)

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« Reply #42 on: 22/03/2017, 07:43 PM »
........such a long wait.  It had better be really GOOD :)

I completely agree  :coffee2:
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« Reply #43 on: 08/04/2017, 07:13 PM »
If you're roasting for home why not save $4kish and get a Behmor... ?

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« Reply #44 on: 08/04/2017, 09:46 PM »
I think the issue is that many folks want that bit of extra capacity.  You know the deal... you start roasting well and peeps say: "Wow!  I pay eleventy billion dollars a kilo for beans from a professional roaster who has had years of training, experience and commercial success; but, yours are so much better.  I'll take a regular order." 

Now, in fairness to there are some innovative home roasters who deserve a nod but I've tasted plenty who should be thinking less about pumping out the beans as a sideline and more about the taste, quality and control.

With that I agree with the Behmor and for those who need a bit more volume like Pat two Behmors :)
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« Reply #45 on: 08/05/2017, 07:58 PM »
That's exactly it Brett. Capacity is the goal with this one. Plus more 'true' controls (airflow, drum speed) and a solid drum for conductive heat transfer, rather than the radiation offered by the Behmor*. I honestly am itching for this to arrive, my KKTO has been great, but when you're roasting up to 4kg a fortnight in 500g batches, and not quite hitting the mark on those subtle profile tweaks, it's starting to become a burden rather than a joy!

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« Reply #46 on: 08/05/2017, 08:46 PM »
That's exactly it Brett. Capacity is the goal with this one. Plus more 'true' controls (airflow, drum speed) and a solid drum for conductive heat transfer, rather than the radiation offered by the behemoth. I honestly am itching for this to arrive, my KKTO has been great, but when you're roasting up to 4kg a fortnight in 500g batches, and not quite hitting the mark on those subtle profile tweaks, it's starting to become a burden rather than a joy!

Yep!  In your case then it's a must!  I'm not anywhere near your level of care or finesse so KKTO is fine for me for the moment.  One day perhaps more.  Until then I'll live vicariously through you mate so you must promise to review her when she arrives ;)
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« Reply #47 on: 09/05/2017, 08:37 AM »
I hope this roaster gains momentum, and gets perfected over time, as it would be the next step up from the KKTO.
Having said that, my KKTO is pumping out  lots of coffee, and I am very happy with the results. Lots of tweaking is yielding excellent results in the cup. I roast between 700-850g batches, depending on the bean type, with 750g my base line. Buying another roaster in the foreseeable future is strictly forbidden, so I too am interested in your journey with this unit.
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