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Finally the Behmor gets a little user control, apart from pushing a give me more time button.

Sounds like lots of new features to play with and he's really looking after his customers by supplying a mod kit for existing owners.

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Where do we buy one in Aussie??
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No doubt it'll turn up soon...

I might have to unmod mine so it doesn't run at 100% all the time and get the upgrade.
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I'll probably get the upgrade as well, might be fun to have some more control over roasts.
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Probably why Behmors have been out of stock since early last christmas so that research and testing can be done before final production.
That,s my guess anyway.
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Where do we buy one in Aussie??

BeanGreen do sell them, when they're in stock.

http://beangreen.com.au/product-list.php?coffee_roasters-pg1-cid9.html
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Everyone seems to be out of stock of these.  Also www.behmor.com.au would indicate that CS is the AU distributor?  Is that true?

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If you read the fine print on the website, the behmor.com.au website is owned by CS. The address and ph numbers are the same as the CS warehouse.
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Yeah I realise that but are they the only au distributors?  I mean are the likes of beangreen getting supplied by them or direct with behmor US?

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I was led to believe that they were the sole importer of the behmor, and then distributed the product in Australia. When the behmor was first released, MG also sold it, then dropped the product. At first I think MG  also imported direct. Some politics happened and I believe they had to buy future product from CS. Obviously someone was able to stitch up the import rights, which makes sense to a manufacturer, as long as sales volumes are maintained.

This is only speculation and if wrong, I am happy to be corrected.

Please remember years back it was hard to buy small quantities of green beans, and there was a friendly co-op in the beginning that sourced and sold the product to a few hard core enthusiasts. Some politics occurred, people got upset and went their separate ways. Other entities evolved and then disappeared (The green guys).
CS was purchased and run as a business, though the illusion of the initial friendly co-op was maintained for marketing purposes. Also, the illusion of good quality green beans being a rare commodity was exploited in the mode of sale. People rushed to buy beans and stockpiled vast quantities that took them ages to roast. The beans (in some cases) deteriorated.
I am glad that businesses such as MG and BG were able to prosper and diversify, thus supporting and growing the hobby of home roasting. Selling 1kg lots with a discount for volume is a very fair strategy that appeals to people starting out. The current range of product is excellent.
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Ooh.... This is EXCITING!!!!!!!!  ^-^

Had 2 Behmors, sold one, set the other one on fire.......

An all singing, all dancing version would be brilliant........

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Does it come with a free fire extinguisher?  :pan

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Talking of which... roast time

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Ooh.... This is EXCITING!!!!!!!!  ^-^

Had 2 Behmors, sold one, set the other one on fire.......

Deliberate or accidental?

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Lwowiak, thank you of your post. I too am glad that MG and BG exist!  When my Behmor failed I sent it back to my retailer who provided very, very fast service and quality of work that has seen it last for many subsequent years.  That retailer provided a first-class after-sales service and I would recommend them to any and all who ask. 


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Yep, you guessed it.... It was Ministry of a Grounds!
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I refuse to get into the politics of CS.  All my dealings with them have been fine, when things went wrong with the Behmor, he more than made up for the situation we thought was wrong, yes I will take a stand in a way with certain people involved in the forum but other than that I'm more interested in giving people as much information and opinion as possible and that's the reason why I still post there.

Buying beans though, yep love the 1kg bags from BG and MG  :thumb:
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I refuse to get into the politics of CS.  All my dealings with them have been fine, when things went wrong with the Behmor, he more than made up for the situation we thought was wrong, yes I will take a stand in a way with certain people involved in the forum but other than that I'm more interested in giving people as much information and opinion as possible and that's the reason why I still post there.

Buying beans though, yep love the 1kg bags from BG and MG  :thumb:

I was just curious as to who the Australia distributor is and if they are a sole distributor.  It appears that it's CS/Andy.  Surely someone can email him for some specific info about the new model and it's availability?  Or is that too easy?

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Hey guys,

As to the fire question, accidental......

The Behmors had been living on the bottom level of my roasting trolley as I had needed larger capacity for oders and had reverted to the Corretto.....

Sold one Behmor to Hiphipharrar and then a while ago pulled the other one out to do some roasts.

What I didn't realise (or think about) was that while living below an active open roaster, a load of chaff, dust and whatever else was falling into the vents of the Behmor and clogging the filters, air vents etc etc.....

Did I think one roast, then the second one things went a bit awry.... Slowing, error codes, smoke and I mean loads of smoke, then whoof!!! Fire in the cage.

Quite amazing. Unplugged it and thought well, that things fruited, and watched what happened. Coffee beans that catch on fire and then left to smoulder resemble tiny heat beads  :D

Left it overnight in the garage to finish smouldering and then threw the whole thing in the bin. Didn't even take the cage out to empty the rubbish from it.

Ahhh well...........

Excited about a new manual model as since our house move a Behmor would be a better option for my own roasts..

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Sold one Behmor to Hiphipharrar

..and it's still going strong. It has now become my preferred roaster as I'm only roasting for myself now and the KKTO has been producing less than optimum results for the last 6 months (probably a dodgy TO).

I'm pretty happy with the output of the Behmor but still learning how to balance batch size and programming. The manual over ride and temp measurement are nice enhancements but it would be good to be able to create and save programs.

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Funny, my preferred method is the KKTO and the Behmor sits on the bottom of my roast trolley and rarely gets used! 
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Watch out if crap falls in it Brett H......

Fire on the way......

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Watch out if crap falls in it Brett H......

Fire on the way......

Thanks mate.  Will do!  I have noticed how dirty it can get and reckon there's a spider or two in residence so will give it all a good clean before the next use.  Turbo ovens tend to last me 12.000001 months before they loose their mojo and it's when this happens I'm grateful for the extra roaster.
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In general, fires in the Behmor are harmless as long as you close the door. Attached to the right hand side, in line with the power is a thermal fuse, which blows at 192 degrees C (it is wrapped in fibreglass insulation to slow the blow). This seems low considering the roast chamber often gets to 240 in my roaster. I've found that if the temp hits about 255 in the roast chamber, that fuse blows (I have been through three of them).

Each time it has blown, the roast has been on the brink of fire, but not quite there (I was experimenting with high drop temps after a minor modification to allow that). As long as you cut the power, the airflow will die off, and the fire will burn out.

For reference, this is the exact fuse http://australia.rs-online.com/web/p/non-resettable-thermal-fuses/1769328/ - I have a stockpile now. If you do need to replace it, you can't solder it, for obvious reasons. You need to use a crimp connector (sold as "Butt connectors", but plastic coated. You can just burn the plastic off first and they work well).
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In general, fires in the Behmor are harmless as long as you close the door. Attached to the right hand side, in line with the power is a thermal fuse, which blows at 192 degrees C (it is wrapped in fibreglass insulation to slow the blow). This seems low considering the roast chamber often gets to 240 in my roaster. I've found that if the temp hits about 255 in the roast chamber, that fuse blows (I have been through three of them).

Each time it has blown, the roast has been on the brink of fire, but not quite there (I was experimenting with high drop temps after a minor modification to allow that). As long as you cut the power, the airflow will die off, and the fire will burn out.

For reference, this is the exact fuse http://australia.rs-online.com/web/p/non-resettable-thermal-fuses/1769328/ - I have a stockpile now. If you do need to replace it, you can't solder it, for obvious reasons. You need to use a crimp connector (sold as "Butt connectors", but plastic coated. You can just burn the plastic off first and they work well).

Brilliant!!  Thanks mate.  I've had a fire but it didn't blow the fuse.  It wasn't much of a fire... Chaff from memory.
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