Ponte Vecchio Lusso - advice please?

Brett_H

Moon wrote:

mycuppa's Roasters Choice/Columbian sounds tempting. :-|

Ahh but you mightn't get the Columbian. It's 'Roaster's Choice!' I love this as a concept for the customer as well as the retailer! Any of muCuppa's Roasters choice that I've had have been extraordinary! I just don't understand how he can keep his prices that low... Seriously!

Moon

Brett H wrote:

Ahh but you mightn't get the Columbian. I just don't understand how he can keep his prices that low... Seriously!

OK .. better to just order the 'Columbian' then .. yeah? No risk 8) It's not like production/labour costs are high (green).. I reckon mycuppa are charging what coffee beans should cost.. $23 kilo (roasted) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

mycuppa

Moon wrote:

It's not like production/labour costs are high (green).. I reckon mycuppa are charging what coffee beans should cost.. $23 kilo (roasted) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I think it would be a mistake.......even foolish, for those who are not involved with working in the industry to speculate on what is a fair or reasonable price to charge for coffee.

Brett_H

Moon wrote:

OK .. better to just order the 'Columbian' then .. yeah? No risk 8) It's not like production/labour costs are high (green).. I reckon mycuppa are charging what coffee beans should cost.. $23 kilo (roasted) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I reckon this is another of your tongue in cheek unless you not telling us something... like you're a zillionaire in disguise and a couple of million bucks worth of plant and another couple of million in product is chicken-feed. Moony... are you.... Clive Palmer in disguise?? If you call me Madam and leave the room I'll be so shocked!

Brett_H

Moon wrote:

OK .. better to just order the 'Columbian' then .. yeah? No risk 8) It's not like production/labour costs are high (green).. I reckon mycuppa are charging what coffee beans should cost.. $23 kilo (roasted) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Moon

mycuppa wrote:

I think it would be a mistake.......even foolish, for those who are not involved with working in the industry to speculate on what is a fair or reasonable price to charge for coffee.

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Moon

Brett H wrote:

I reckon this is another of your tongue in cheek....

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Moon

Lwowiak wrote:

I am curious that you have not blended the MM with anything. You may be pleasantly surprised at the flavours you get in the cup. That MM might be average on its own, but could really shine in a blend.

Kevohere wrote:

What he said! :coffee2:

By popular request Ethiopian Yirgacheffe and Monsoon Malobar (MM) *Blended the Yirg and MM in a 50/50 mix Roast date - 5th June (5 weeks) by Brett Dose - 16.5g Tamp - Light Double fellini Pour - 20 secs for 20ml Rating - 9.05/10 Nice coffee. Blending the 2 poured better and definitely produced a better result than either bean individually. Cheers for the heads-up :thumb: .. and of course --> huge thanks to Brett (includes the Big Clive reference) 😛 And no .. I'm not a zillionaire .. just a bloke with an eye out for good value for $ .. and not getting ripped. 😢 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

C-man

MM normally used at 10-20% in a blend cheers!

Moon

C-man wrote:

MM normally used at 10-20% in a blend - cheers!

Cheers C. Just finishing off the last of some beans.. that are getting on a bit .. so not worth trying to get the best out of them at this stage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Indian Tiger Mountain - so Roasted - 19th June (25 days) Dose - 16.5g Tamp - Light Double fellini Pour - 25 secs for 20ml Rating - 9.25/10 More of a flat white this time .. and a very nice coffee. * Will be ordering some more 'The Chief' blend from Sixty West shortly -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Moon

Bean having a few of 'Blackboards' blend from the Gold Coast .. blending them with some of Brett's Monsoon Malobar (MM) so - as the Blackboard are a bit too mild on their own. 12g Blackboard .. and 6g MM = 18g Tamp - Light Pour - 30 secs for around 15ml + 2nd extraction to top up. First tried going 30ml and then a couple of 20ml Result - Ample crema and a much more flavorsome coffee - each rating around 8.9/10 (B+) MM single origin beans have definitely bean useful in a blend .. as others had suggested in earlier posts.

Moon

Excellent timing for the SixtyWest beans to arrive. 500g of 'The Chief' and 250g of 'Fair Trade Organic' My Sister thought the SixtyWest (old) beans were sensational .. compared to her usual Coffex 'Super Bar' Lol .. no surprise there. The Chief - blend First is to get the grind right Roasted - 11th July (7 days) Dose - 17g Tamp - Light Double fellini Pour - 20 secs for 18ml Went a 2nd extraction to top up - 22ml Rating - 9.1/10 Slightly under-dosed .. will try 17.5g next time. Good amount of crema. Nice coffee .. especially for the maiden cuppa. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Moon

The Chief - blend .. by SixtyWest Roast date - 11th July Grind - slighly coarser Dose - 18.1g Tamp - Light Single fellini Pour - 25 secs for 17ml 2nd extraction for a few secs to top up to 20ml Rating - 9.2/10 Very nice latte .. and getting better. Might have to sneak in a 'Fair Trade Organic' a bit later. Last time .. the range of all 5 SixtyWest blends responded well to the same grind setting. I will see if the same dose and tamp as 'The Chief' I just had .. also applies? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fair Trade Organic blend - by SixtyWest Dose - 16.5g Tamp - Light Double fellini Pour - 30 secs for 17ml 2nd extraction to top up to 20ml Rating - 8.8/10 Not bad .. but didn't quite cut the mustard .. I'm working on it .. first try n all.

Moon

The Chief Dose - 18.1g Tamp - Light Double fellini Pour - 25 secs for 17ml 2nd exraction to top up to 22ml Rating - 9.05/10 (A-) Nice .. only I'm spoilt these days. Anything under a 9.2/10 needs work.

Moon

Have dropped back from the dizzy heights of those 9.5/10 coffees. 😢 Thought the pour has bean a bit thin of late .. so I took of the shower screen using a narrow screwdriver .. to check. The screen itself wasn't too bad .. only there was quite a layer of coffee gunk under the group-head to clean off. I'll have to check this a bit more regularly. it's a wonder there was any coffee coming through at all. The Chief - by SixtyWest Dose - 18.1g Tamp - Light+ Double fellini Pour - 20 secs for 17ml 2nd ext to top up to 20ml Rating - 8.8/10 (B+) Probably better than I'm rating - only coming off those other high ratings .. they are definitely lacking. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Chief Dose - 18.1g Grind - tad finer <1mm Tamp - Light+ Pour - 25 secs for 17ml Did the fellini differently this time Rather than allow the full extraction like I have bean doing .. I allowed the pour to flow for 5 secs then pulled the lever down for a full extraction.. resulting in a 20ml shot Rating - 8.9/10 (B+) Coffees have bean tasting a little strange lately. I went for the Chinese tongue scrape .. ?? - only it didn't improve the flavour this time .. as it has in the past. I've had my PV Lusso since December .. and wondering whether it might need a flush-out with one of those cleaning tablets? I use a pretty good bench top water filter with a quality Doulton cartridge .. so I can't imagine in the relatively short time I've had the machine .. that there would be any Calcium buildup. I might wait until I purchase some more beans to try .. to see if the quality in the cup improves? Those 9.5/10 coffees have definitely spoilt me .. although I'd be fairly happy with achieving at least 9.2s ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Next - Fair Trade Organic - SixtyWest

Brett_H

Hi Moony. Your machine won't need a flush out with descaler like ever if you feed it scale inhibited filtered water. You'd be working with very tainted water to taste it out of the boiler and through the puck. Perhaps clean your grinder (grindz not rice or samosas) and your filter basket but leave a working machine alone and focus on the water, coffee and grind! I'm on camp and have mr pavoni and the same Balinese coffee from my holiday 2 weeks ago. There it rated as high as 9.3 freshly roasted. Alas today's coffee was 8.8 because my grind wasn't fine enough. Still... Better than the Nespresso in the end cabin... That was a 5.2/10 as a flat shite!

Moon

Brett H wrote:

Hi Moony. Your machine won't need a flush out with descaler like ever if you feed it scale inhibited filtered water. Still... Better than the Nespresso in the end cabin... That was a 5.2/10 as a flat shite!

Cheers Brett .. and kudos for managing to get the Nespresso past your tastebuds and down your throat .. without gagging. That's some mean feat right there. 5.2/10 .. crikey .. no doubt a moment of desperation .. it happens. Yeah .. I was thinking about the grinder .. especially after having used dark roast oily beans .. and whether grinds get stuck internally? I'll have to check out the manual to see how to remove the blades to take a squiz. I may find that I need to give it a clean out on a more regular basis.

Brett_H

No mate... No disassembly needed! Just some grindz and a vacuum cleaner. Keep it simple, keep it functioning!

Moon

Brett H wrote:

No mate... No disassembly needed! Just some grindz and a vacuum cleaner. Keep it simple, keep it functioning!

Where did you get your Grindz from? Fair Trade Organic - blend 1st was a sinker .. poured way too fast., and the spent grinds were very loose. I was tempted to tamp harder next time .. but I'm keeping the tamp consistent .. and adjusting the grind, as suggested by other Crema members Adjusted the grind a fair degree finer. (around 7mm) Dose - 16.6g Tamp - Light+ Double fellini Pour - 25 secs for 20ml Rating - 9.15/10 Nice coffee .. and looking forward to tweaking this one to hopefully get it up to a 9.2/10 .. or better.

Brett_H

Grindz is available from coffeeparts!

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