Spout - have you seen one like this?

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• Koffee_Kosmo

  September 2011

  I have the same spout as yours No issues with my pours KK

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• mycuppa

  September 2011

  On some of the machines I've installed in cafes, I come across the occasional double spout that behaves similar to this - particularly on a very tight (slow) extraction. The issues have generally been due to an ever so slight manufacturing defect (lop-sided, or uneven) on the spout itself. I've swapped handles (with spouts) and the problem has gone away, so I take the portafilter back to the roastery and swap out the spout for another and it generally fixes the problem. The difference is barely noticeable, but it does play a part in the way the fluid will fall. Mark the spout that pours more frequently, then loosen/rotate the spout around 180 degrees (this may mean the thread is a little loose for the test) to see if the problem moves with the "marked" spout.

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• Gra

  September 2011

  Another cause for this is if the machine is not level. When levelling the machine put your level on the group head and not the base can make a difference Gra....

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• gregpullman

  September 2011

  on 1315134808:

  Another cause for this is if the machine is not level. When levelling the machine put your level on the group head and not the base can make a difference Gra....

  Probably the most likely culprit.

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• beanflying

  September 2011

  Don't worry about it to much drink doubles or just play naked  ;D Not level is a major contributor. My cart unless I throw a spirit level on it and adjust it pours noticeably one way or the other. Generally I don't run split shots on the Izzo with T/Aways so it is less of a problem it just looks nicer.

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• admin

  September 2011

  OK guys - thanks, appreciate the responses!

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• RichardM

  September 2011

  I know I'm late commenting, but I've been hungover for about 48 hours now after a fun filled bucks party.... But yeah, that's the same as mine, and mine pours perfectly - in fact, much much better than the old Lelit, even with my dodgy fitted tamper, and a basket that looks like it's been run over by a small car (more annoying is that I know my new pullman and basket is waiting at the post office <500m from my house, but didn't get the notice until after work today )

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• Seeya Latte

  September 2011

  Same shaped spout here. It has happened to me a few times.....however only ever when I've packed the basket to the ridiculous followed by placing a tamp that any vice would be proud of.

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• askthecoffeeguy

  September 2011

  Um at the risk of stating the obvious the most likely culprit when it comes to uneven pours is uneven tamping - I find standing side on to the tamper and looking directly over it as I apply pressure helps  with even distribution - as does eyeballing the dose before I insert the handle into the machine A good way to test this is also to examine your puck after extraction as uneven  tamping usually leeds to channelling and soggy pucks ergo have another look at your technique! Just a thought I'm not always right just ask my wife hahahahahaha! P

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• admin

  September 2011

  Hi guys - tx for responses. Ok, seems like a combination of things... for a start, there was a noticeable difference with a clean filter basket - they say cleanliness is next to godliness for a reason, I guess [just that when it comes down to it, cleaning is one of those things I will always get round to doing 'tomorrow'!]. Second thing is actually an interesting one [uneven tamp not usually an issue for me] - it happened again even with clean filter basket and I actually noticed a little particle of grind on the side that wasn't working - flicked it out with a knife and the flow started immediately! ... have come to the conclusion that for this style of portafilter/spout it's harder for the flow to dislodge small items like that - presumably because of the flatter shape... ie they look nice, but perhaps because they've got much less of an incline, it's easier for a small particle of grind to get stuck and harder for the flow to dislodge?? interesting...

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• askthecoffeeguy

  September 2011

  on 1315985180:

  Hi guys - tx for responses. Ok, seems like a combination of things... for a start, there was a noticeable difference with a clean filter basket - they say cleanliness is next to godliness for a reason, I guess [just that when it comes down to it, cleaning is one of those things I will always get round to doing 'tomorrow'!]. Second thing is actually an interesting one [uneven tamp not usually an issue for me] - it happened again even with clean filter basket and I actually noticed a little particle of grind on the side that wasn't working - flicked it out with a knife and the flow started immediately! ... have come to the conclusion that for this style of portafilter/spout it's harder for the flow to dislodge small items like that - presumably because of the flatter shape... ie they look nice, but perhaps because they've got much less of an incline, it's easier for a small particle of grind to get stuck and harder for the flow to dislodge?? interesting...

  Its just a suggestion but in a domestic environment I always knock out my puck immediately after use, and then reinsert the portafilter, then pop an empty coffee puck or similar underneath, and run some hot water through the basket, whilst jiggling it back and forth - to simultaneously dislodge any build up of grind in and around the group head of course this does not replace the practise of regular machine maintenance including descaling and back flushing, but it does help to prevent the build up of grind bot in the handle and in the machine itself just a thought ...

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